Chaos tonight - why cant the TM do the ticket part of their job....

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[Mookiemoo]

Okay, so there was a fatality and it was chaos.  Got on at Reading - still very busy but there is standing room in standard.

So why is first class full of standard class ticket holders sitting down and blocking the ailses.  TM^‡(resolve) is more bothered about doing the short platform announcement - we havent even got to Oxford yet FFS^▸ (for goodness' sake (a more polite definition)).

Come down, check tickets, hoof them back to standard - then we might, just might, get a trolley down first.

It may be uncharitable but if they want to take the extra space, they should pay for it.

[devon_metro]

Sorry But i get the impression the network is in chaos. How busy was standard OOI?

[Jim]

How do you know about the SC situation? How do you know those peolple didn't have FC^‡(resolve) tickets?

[Mookiemoo]

Sorry But i get the impression the network is in chaos. How busy was standard OOI?

To REading it was chaos - I can understand

But there is standing room in standard class - no reason standard ticket holders should be down here taking our space and blocking the trolley.  They may have more room but they would fit in standard (and most in buffet are foreign students anyway)

[Mookiemoo]

How do you know about the SC situation? How do you know those peolple didn't have FC^‡(resolve) tickets?

I know about SC because I could see the carriages as they came in (and I just went to take a look)

i know they dont have FC tickets because they are boasting about it "normal service should be suspended tonight, we'll just stay here"

They are suspending my normal service - I have no problem IF THEY PAY THE PREMIUM

[Shazz]

How do you know about the SC situation? How do you know those peolple didn't have FC^‡(resolve) tickets?

I know about SC because I could see the carriages as they came in (and I just went to take a look)

i know they dont have FC tickets because they are boasting about it "normal service should be suspended tonight, we'll just stay here"

They are suspending my normal service - I have no problem IF THEY PAY THE PREMIUM

Will getting them to buy your beloved white wine on that service keep you quiet, or is that out of stock already? 

On a serious note, i'm sure the TM^‡(resolve) will come and get them to move out when he gets to his ticket checking.

[Mookiemoo]

How do you know about the SC situation? How do you know those peolple didn't have FC^‡(resolve) tickets?

I know about SC because I could see the carriages as they came in (and I just went to take a look)

i know they dont have FC tickets because they are boasting about it "normal service should be suspended tonight, we'll just stay here"

They are suspending my normal service - I have no problem IF THEY PAY THE PREMIUM

There's nothing left at all - been done over like a plague of locusts

I get the impression some people dont like first class passengers - well sorry - when I pay almost double I see no reason why others should benefit and reduce the service I could be getting.

i'd far rather they be left on the station is SC was over full - if you can afford it, buy the ticket, if you cant, wait for a later train

Will getting them to buy your beloved white wine on that service keep you quiet, or is that out of stock already? 

On a serious note, i'm sure the TM^‡(resolve) will come and get them to move out when he gets to his ticket checking.

[Mookiemoo]

The upshot of what I am trying to say is........

They could be removed from FC^‡(resolve) - SC has space available

Because of the overcrowding and standing, FC can have no trolley (which is part of the service)

The space we pay a premium for is being reduced by people who have not paid said premium

Yet no effort is being made to remove them to SC

It would be different, as I said, if there was no space at all as there was none from PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains) to RDG^‡(resolve) but there is so they should go

[miniman]

Words fail me. 

There is a travel option that I think fulfils your needs for personal space and to be kept at a distance from The Oiks, it's called a car.

[Conner]

I would like to put my personal opinion on this:
I have travelled in First Class for free twice before.
Both times on trains from Plymouth-Camborne after football matches. The trains are packed. Standing room only in SC would be an exagerration, there was no room seating or standing. Both times the TM^‡(resolve) told people trying to get on to get on in FC^‡(resolve) and sit down.
I think SC passengers should be allowed on FC rather than not get on.
And as you didn't see how busy the train got after Reading you can't say how busy it is really.

[Mookiemoo]

Finally - as we pulled out of oxford I actually located him (had previously mentioned to buffet staff to suggest the ticket check).

Couldnt do it as stations to close together and had to get to front to do SDO^▸ (Selective Door Opening).

End result was he did a tannoy announcement indicating that any SC holders in FC^‡(resolve) would be charged the full FC fare - cleared them out pretty sharpish

[Mookiemoo]

I would like to put my personal opinion on this:
I have travelled in First Class for free twice before.
Both times on trains from Plymouth-Camborne after football matches. The trains are packed. Standing room only in SC would be an exagerration, there was no room seating or standing. Both times the TM^‡(resolve) told people trying to get on to get on in FC^‡(resolve) and sit down.
I think SC passengers should be allowed on FC rather than not get on.
And as you didn't see how busy the train got after Reading you can't say how busy it is really.

As we pulled out of reading I specifically walked down  carriages E, D and to the entrance to C - plenty of spaces.

SC should be given the option - get on in FC and pay or don't get on - their choice.  One of the reasons I dont go Virgin - their habit of declassifying FC in busy periods.

[Mookiemoo]

Words fail me. 

There is a travel option that I think fulfils your needs for personal space and to be kept at a distance from The Oiks, it's called a car.

Then I couldnt have time wasting activities like this on the way home!

I dont mind sharing space - I have a problem with paying a premium for a service then having people who do not pay reducing my service at no extra cost to them

[miniman]

Wait a minute, let me just get this straight. Following an afternoon of chaos caused by a fatality at Southall leading to multiple cancellations and delays that are still severe right now at 19:40, you were so pissed off that the first class trolley service couldn't make it down the aisle because bloody commoners were in the way that not only did you complain to the buffet staff but also track down the train manager and moan at him too? Jesus, I'd get down to the Doc and get my blood pressure checked if I were you 

Edit: AND you walked half way down the train just to give yourself more ammo for the moaning? Feck on a stick!

[Timmer]

Finally - as we pulled out of oxford I actually located him (had previously mentioned to buffet staff to suggest the ticket check).

Couldnt do it as stations to close together and had to get to front to do SDO^▸ (Selective Door Opening).

End result was he did a tannoy announcement indicating that any SC holders in FC^‡(resolve) would be charged the full FC fare - cleared them out pretty sharpish

Yeah I bet it did!