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« on: February 24, 2008, 11:04:47 »
...staying.

Found at Laira: http://www.rollingstock.fotopic.net/p48515280.html

FGW▸ (First Great Western) are also rumoured to be leasing some more and for sets without buffets there will be alternate arrangement for a while.
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2008, 11:23:53 »
Well good news, but I'm a bit puzzled as to how NXEC▸ (National Express East Coast) have buffets to release?
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2008, 12:44:35 »
I thought they there were a number of MkIII buffet cars sitting around disused?   Surely if FGW▸ (First Great Western) want them, they could investigate these being used??
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2008, 12:54:41 »
Quote from: rjames87 on February 24, 2008, 12:44:35
I thought they there were a number of MkIII buffet cars sitting around disused?   Surely if FGW▸ (First Great Western) want them, they could investigate these being used??




I expect there are quite a few ex Virgin West Coast MkIII Buffet Cars laying around, however there are some major tasks to undertake to make Loco hauled stock suitable for HSTs▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)), like a full rewire to start.

HSTs are 3Phase 400 volt elctric systems
Loco Hauled single phase 800v Ac/1000v Dc electric systems.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2008, 13:00:40 »
So the [possibility exists, just at a high price! 
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2008, 14:27:37 »
Quote from: rjames87 on February 24, 2008, 13:00:40
So the [possibility exists, just at a high price! 
It does and many other operators are doing it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2008, 16:44:27 »
I suspect we'll be seeing Marcroft having a bit more work then!
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2008, 17:25:34 »
Why is there a shortage of Buffet cars anyway???  Didn't every HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) train-set have a buffet car when new??  Im presuming not? 

Which routes never had buffet cars hwen the HSTs were new?
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2008, 17:35:27 »
A few have been written off in crashes and have a feeling some were converted into TFs and are with FGW▸ (First Great Western)
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2008, 17:37:25 »
Would this mean First have seen the light (the obvious one) and decided to refurb all of the buffets?
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2008, 17:39:19 »
As noted previously on this site, the trolley trial has been suspended, but this is only until they find an alternative that is safe for passengers and staff.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2008, 17:41:04 »
What exactly caused the suspension of the trolley service??    What are those staff doing now?!
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2008, 17:53:55 »
Quote from: rjames87 on February 24, 2008, 17:41:04
What exactly caused the suspension of the trolley service??    What are those staff doing now?!

They are off their trolleys.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2008, 18:12:37 »
Quote from: Ollie on February 24, 2008, 17:39:19
As noted previously on this site, the trolley trial has been suspended, but this is only until they find an alternative that is safe for passengers and staff.

I've heard from a reliable source that they are to use a static trolley for now.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2008, 18:22:12 »
How did an accident occur anyway?  Why dont other TOCs▸ (Train Operating Company) have issues running a trolley service? 
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