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« Reply #180 on: September 06, 2021, 11:20:26 » |
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As this ties in with the start of the December timetable, it could be a similar situation to May when the timetable was uploaded to RTT» and then swiftly removed.
As a reference in case that happens again - Monday to Friday, 1st full week it's shown:
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« Reply #181 on: September 06, 2021, 13:02:03 » |
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Perhaps they could tweak it so it is at least clockface during the middle part of the day. Much easier to market. Much easier to remember.
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grahame
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« Reply #182 on: September 06, 2021, 13:49:18 » |
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Perhaps they could tweak it so it is at least clockface during the middle part of the day. Much easier to market. Much easier to remember.
No reason why the GBTT▸ can't be 07:20, 09:20, 11:20, 13:20, 15:20, 18:20 and 20:20 from Okehampton. Not going to get into delay / repay margins even if the train leaves 5 minutes after boarding as arrivals will still be on time. Turn around on the 11:18 arrival probably mean that a WTT▸ of 11:20 would be out (and little point in changing the WTTs if they give an issue at Crediton.
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« Reply #183 on: September 06, 2021, 16:35:36 » |
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Regarding train enthusiasts on the first train. Maybe something over the weekend 2nd 3rd October? https://dartmoorline.com/news/Also 30/75 speed restriction sign has appeared on the branch.
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« Reply #184 on: September 06, 2021, 17:23:17 » |
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There are always many wanting to take the first/any train on the first day in official service - as well as that probable happening
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« Reply #185 on: September 06, 2021, 19:58:06 » |
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Regarding train enthusiasts on the first train. Maybe something over the weekend 2nd 3rd October? https://dartmoorline.com/news/Also 30/75 speed restriction sign has appeared on the branch. I can tell you for certain it won't be that early.
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« Reply #186 on: September 07, 2021, 07:58:06 » |
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The first train arrival at Exeter at 10am isn’t going to attract commuters! Or is this just a draft and there will be something earlier? Perhaps RichardB would comment (thanks).
12 Dec is a Sunday this year, the usual day of the week for TT changes, click forward on RTT» to Monday you'll see the full service then. Apologies, I failed to look at the calendar ☹️
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« Reply #187 on: September 07, 2021, 09:04:21 » |
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Perhaps they could tweak it so it is at least clockface during the middle part of the day. Much easier to market. Much easier to remember.
No reason why the GBTT▸ can't be 07:20, 09:20, 11:20, 13:20, 15:20, 18:20 and 20:20 from Okehampton. Not going to get into delay / repay margins even if the train leaves 5 minutes after boarding as arrivals will still be on time. Turn around on the 11:18 arrival probably mean that a WTT▸ of 11:20 would be out (and little point in changing the WTTs if they give an issue at Crediton. You're looking at the wrong column, the departures from Okehampton are are on the right and are x20, xx24 and xx25, the xx24s are more likely to have a GBTT departure of xx25 giving a clockface timetable. The times on the left are the arrival times at Okehampton, not the departure time from Exeter. What's strange is the last row arrival with no associated departure.
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« Reply #188 on: September 07, 2021, 09:17:26 » |
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Perhaps they could tweak it so it is at least clockface during the middle part of the day. Much easier to market. Much easier to remember.
No reason why the GBTT▸ can't be 07:20, 09:20, 11:20, 13:20, 15:20, 18:20 and 20:20 from Okehampton. Not going to get into delay / repay margins even if the train leaves 5 minutes after boarding as arrivals will still be on time. Turn around on the 11:18 arrival probably mean that a WTT▸ of 11:20 would be out (and little point in changing the WTTs if they give an issue at Crediton. You're looking at the wrong column, the departures from Okehampton are are on the right and are x20, xx24 and xx25, the xx24s are more likely to have a GBTT departure of xx25 giving a clockface timetable. The times on the left are the arrival times at Okehampton, not the departure time from Exeter. What's strange is the last row arrival with no associated departure. Pantomime time - oh no I'm not I proposed a GBTT departure of :20 - it has to be before or the same as the WTT departure - otherwise the train could leave before the timetable says. A :25 GBTT would get people who arrived to the station just a minute or two before the published time just a little miffed as they saw the tail lights disappear even though it was just :23 on the clock. Probably can't put them uniformly back to :25 WTT and GBTT without changing the hard work already done slotting them in once they get back to Crediton and Cowley Bridge. Can't put them WTT universally to leave at :20 because there's not enough turn-around time in the hours that the arrival is :18. Yes - I noticed the last arrival has no corresponding departure too. Probably an ECS▸ not yet in the timetabe? I can't imagine the first arrival in the morning coupling up to another unit stabled overnight for what will be the peak train.
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« Reply #190 on: September 09, 2021, 08:12:55 » |
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From Cornwall Railway Society website this morning GW608 - CREDITON TO COLEFORD (MELDON LINE) CREDITON TO OKEHAMPTON SINGLE LINE
The line of route GW608 has been extended to include the former Dartmoor Railway from former Coleford Junction (183m 69ch) to Meldon Quarry (Okehampton) and operated by Network Rail (infrastructure manager).
Delete all references to line of route GW609. The single line between Crediton and former Coleford Junction will continue to be known as the Up/Down Okehampton line. Beyond former Coleford Junction, and to Meldon Quarry, the line will be known as the Up/Down Dartmoor single line. From Crediton, the down direction is now Okehampton. Until further notice the end of the single line will be a stop board (CN102) at the Meldon Quarry end of Okehampton (197m 28ch). A fixed distant signal (CN100) will be provided 510 metres on approach to the stop board.
Method of working The One-train working regulations applies between Crediton (facing points 23A) and Okehampton. A train-staff labelled “Crediton– Okehampton” has been provided and normally kept in Crediton signal box. The start of one-train working will be indicated by a line side sign, just the Meldon side of facing points 23A (approximately 177m 30ch). The section signal leading onto the single line at Crediton will be CN4. In the other direction, the home signal will be CN3.
Speeds Until further notice a temporary speed restriction (TSR▸ ) of 55 miles per hour (mph) applies to passenger trains (loaded or empty) and light locomotives between Crediton (facing points 23A) and 195m 00ch. A 30mph TSR applies to all other trains. A differential permissible speed of 30/45 mph will apply between 195m 00ch and a 25mph permissible speed which starts at the Crediton end of Okehampton. There are instances of a lower speed TSR inside the higher (55 mph) TSR. Termination indicator(s) is not placed at the end of the lower speed TSR, instead a 55mph speed indicator will be placed showing the higher speed TSR. See also Section A of this notice concerning lower speed TSR(s) which apply.
Level Crossing The following footpath (FP) and user worked (UWC▸ ) level crossings have been upgraded to Overlay Miniature Stop Light (OMSL) type, with red (do not cross) and green (safe to cross) warning lights (R/G), telephones and signs giving instructions to users: 184m 00ch - Penstone FP 187m 04ch - Common Moor No.1 UWC 185m 41ch - Two Moors Way FP 186m 15ch - Landsend UWC 188m 03ch - Buttisland UWC 194m 66ch - Corscombe UWC New whistle (W) board shave been provided on either side of Park No.2 LC▸ (179m 54ch) on the Okehampton and North Devon single lines.
Okehampton A single platform (situated on the up side of the single line) capable of accommodating 4 x 23m long vehicles has been provided at Okehampton.
Automatic Warning System (AWS▸ ) A permanent AWS magnet has been provided 150 metres on approach to the distant signal (CN100) outside Okehampton. The magnet is not suppressed for up direction movements and a cancelling indicator will be provided. Telecommunications Until further notice, the GSM-R▸ area remains as published in the Sectional Appendix (start/end 183m 79ch).
See local instructions in Section D of this notice concerning duties of the guard in lieu of train radio coverage on the single line. http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/latest-input--news--old-pictures-etc
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« Reply #191 on: September 17, 2021, 11:11:43 » |
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Crew training diagrams in the timetable from 20 September 2021. Exeter depot to Okehampton then a few trips between Yeoford and Okehampton before back to Exeter. Repeats again during afternoon.
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« Reply #192 on: September 18, 2021, 10:17:39 » |
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Times now showing on RealTimeTrains for the training runs
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« Reply #194 on: October 10, 2021, 16:23:18 » |
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Heresay, but seems reasonable, so I'll post it, NR» and GWR▸ to announce formally start of service in December 'this coming week - Week beginning 11 Oct 2021', Advertising and promotion to start shortly after. We'll see.
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