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« Reply #180 on: September 06, 2021, 11:20:26 »

As this ties in with the start of the December timetable, it could be a similar situation to May when the timetable was uploaded to RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) and then swiftly removed.

As a reference in case that happens again - Monday to Friday, 1st full week it's shown:

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« Reply #181 on: September 06, 2021, 13:02:03 »

Perhaps they could tweak it so it is at least clockface during the middle part of the day.   Much easier to market.  Much easier to remember.
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« Reply #182 on: September 06, 2021, 13:49:18 »

Perhaps they could tweak it so it is at least clockface during the middle part of the day.   Much easier to market.  Much easier to remember.

No reason why the GBTT (Great British Time Table) can't be 07:20, 09:20, 11:20, 13:20, 15:20, 18:20 and 20:20 from Okehampton.  Not going to get into delay / repay margins even if the train leaves 5 minutes after boarding as arrivals will still be on time. Turn around on the 11:18 arrival probably mean that a WTT (Working Time-Table) of 11:20 would be out (and little point in changing the WTTs if they give an issue at Crediton.
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« Reply #183 on: September 06, 2021, 16:35:36 »

Regarding train enthusiasts on the first train. Maybe something over the weekend 2nd 3rd October?

https://dartmoorline.com/news/

Also 30/75 speed restriction sign has appeared on the branch.
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« Reply #184 on: September 06, 2021, 17:23:17 »

There are always many wanting to take the first/any train on the first day in official service - as well as that probable happening
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« Reply #185 on: September 06, 2021, 19:58:06 »

Regarding train enthusiasts on the first train. Maybe something over the weekend 2nd 3rd October?

https://dartmoorline.com/news/

Also 30/75 speed restriction sign has appeared on the branch.

I can tell you for certain it won't be that early. 
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« Reply #186 on: September 07, 2021, 07:58:06 »

The first train arrival at Exeter at 10am isn’t going to attract commuters!
Or is this just a draft and there will be something earlier?
Perhaps RichardB would comment (thanks).

12 Dec is a Sunday this year, the usual day of the week for TT changes, click forward on RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) to Monday you'll see the full service then.
Apologies, I failed to look at the calendar ☹️
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« Reply #187 on: September 07, 2021, 09:04:21 »

Perhaps they could tweak it so it is at least clockface during the middle part of the day.   Much easier to market.  Much easier to remember.

No reason why the GBTT (Great British Time Table) can't be 07:20, 09:20, 11:20, 13:20, 15:20, 18:20 and 20:20 from Okehampton.  Not going to get into delay / repay margins even if the train leaves 5 minutes after boarding as arrivals will still be on time. Turn around on the 11:18 arrival probably mean that a WTT (Working Time-Table) of 11:20 would be out (and little point in changing the WTTs if they give an issue at Crediton.

You're looking at the wrong column, the departures from Okehampton are are on the right and are x20, xx24 and xx25, the xx24s are more likely to have a GBTT departure of xx25 giving a clockface timetable.
The times on the left are the arrival times at Okehampton, not the departure time from Exeter.

What's strange is the last row arrival with no associated departure.
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« Reply #188 on: September 07, 2021, 09:17:26 »

Perhaps they could tweak it so it is at least clockface during the middle part of the day.   Much easier to market.  Much easier to remember.

No reason why the GBTT (Great British Time Table) can't be 07:20, 09:20, 11:20, 13:20, 15:20, 18:20 and 20:20 from Okehampton.  Not going to get into delay / repay margins even if the train leaves 5 minutes after boarding as arrivals will still be on time. Turn around on the 11:18 arrival probably mean that a WTT (Working Time-Table) of 11:20 would be out (and little point in changing the WTTs if they give an issue at Crediton.

You're looking at the wrong column, the departures from Okehampton are are on the right and are x20, xx24 and xx25, the xx24s are more likely to have a GBTT departure of xx25 giving a clockface timetable.
The times on the left are the arrival times at Okehampton, not the departure time from Exeter.

What's strange is the last row arrival with no associated departure.

Pantomime time - oh no I'm not  Grin Grin

I proposed a GBTT departure of :20 - it has to be before or the same as the WTT departure - otherwise the train could leave before the timetable says.  A :25 GBTT would get people who arrived to the station just a minute or two before the published time just a little miffed as they saw the tail lights disappear even though it was just :23 on the clock.

Probably can't put them uniformly back to :25 WTT and GBTT without changing the hard work already done slotting them in once they get back to Crediton and Cowley Bridge.     Can't put them WTT universally to leave at :20 because there's not enough turn-around time in the hours that the arrival is :18.

Yes - I noticed the last arrival has no corresponding departure too.  Probably an ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) not yet in the timetabe?  I can't imagine the first arrival in the morning coupling up to another unit stabled overnight for what will be the peak train.
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« Reply #189 on: September 07, 2021, 22:50:21 »

2E58 is the return to Exeter at 2219.
okehampton service by Robert, on Flickr
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« Reply #190 on: September 09, 2021, 08:12:55 »

From Cornwall Railway Society website this morning
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GW608  - CREDITON TO COLEFORD (MELDON LINE) CREDITON TO OKEHAMPTON SINGLE  LINE

The  line  of  route  GW608  has  been  extended  to  include  the  former  Dartmoor  Railway  from  former  Coleford  Junction  (183m  69ch) to  Meldon  Quarry  (Okehampton)  and  operated  by  Network  Rail  (infrastructure  manager).

Delete  all  references  to  line  of  route GW609. The  single  line  between  Crediton  and  former  Coleford  Junction  will  continue  to  be  known  as  the  Up/Down  Okehampton  line.   Beyond  former  Coleford  Junction,  and  to  Meldon  Quarry,  the  line  will  be  known  as  the  Up/Down  Dartmoor  single  line.    From Crediton,  the  down  direction  is  now  Okehampton. Until  further  notice  the  end  of  the  single  line  will  be  a  stop  board  (CN102)  at  the  Meldon  Quarry  end  of  Okehampton  (197m  28ch). A  fixed  distant  signal  (CN100)  will  be  provided  510  metres  on  approach  to  the  stop  board.

Method  of  working
The  One-train  working  regulations  applies  between  Crediton  (facing  points  23A)  and  Okehampton.    A  train-staff  labelled  “Crediton–  Okehampton”  has  been  provided  and  normally  kept  in  Crediton  signal  box. The  start  of  one-train  working  will  be  indicated  by  a  line  side  sign,  just  the  Meldon  side  of  facing  points  23A  (approximately  177m 30ch). The  section  signal  leading  onto  the  single  line  at  Crediton  will  be  CN4.    In  the  other  direction,  the  home  signal  will  be  CN3.

Speeds
Until  further  notice  a  temporary  speed  restriction  (TSR (Temporary Speed Restriction))  of  55  miles  per  hour  (mph)  applies  to  passenger  trains  (loaded  or  empty) and  light  locomotives  between  Crediton  (facing  points  23A)  and  195m  00ch.    A  30mph  TSR  applies  to  all  other  trains. A  differential  permissible  speed  of  30/45  mph  will  apply  between  195m  00ch  and  a  25mph  permissible  speed  which  starts  at  the Crediton  end  of  Okehampton. There  are  instances  of  a  lower  speed  TSR  inside  the  higher  (55  mph)  TSR.    Termination  indicator(s)  is  not  placed  at  the  end  of the  lower  speed  TSR,  instead  a  55mph  speed  indicator  will  be  placed  showing  the  higher  speed  TSR. See  also  Section  A  of  this  notice  concerning  lower  speed  TSR(s)  which  apply.

Level  Crossing
The  following  footpath  (FP)  and  user  worked  (UWC (User Worked Crossing))  level  crossings  have  been  upgraded  to  Overlay  Miniature  Stop  Light  (OMSL) type,  with  red  (do  not  cross)  and  green  (safe  to  cross)  warning  lights  (R/G),  telephones  and  signs  giving  instructions  to  users: 184m  00ch  -  Penstone  FP 187m  04ch  -  Common  Moor  No.1  UWC 185m  41ch  -  Two  Moors  Way  FP 186m  15ch  -  Landsend  UWC 188m  03ch  -  Buttisland  UWC 194m  66ch  -  Corscombe  UWC New  whistle  (W)  board  shave  been  provided  on  either  side  of  Park  No.2  LC (Level Crossing)  (179m  54ch)  on  the  Okehampton  and  North  Devon single  lines.

Okehampton
A  single  platform  (situated  on  the  up  side  of  the  single  line)  capable  of  accommodating  4  x  23m  long  vehicles  has  been  provided at  Okehampton.

Automatic  Warning  System  (AWS (Automatic Warning System))
A  permanent  AWS  magnet  has  been  provided  150  metres  on  approach  to  the  distant  signal  (CN100)  outside  Okehampton.    The magnet  is  not  suppressed  for  up  direction  movements  and  a  cancelling  indicator  will  be  provided. Telecommunications Until  further  notice,  the  GSM-R (Global System for Mobile communications - Railway.)  area  remains  as  published  in  the  Sectional  Appendix  (start/end  183m  79ch).

See  local instructions  in  Section  D  of  this  notice  concerning  duties  of  the  guard  in  lieu  of  train  radio  coverage  on  the  single  line.
   

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/latest-input--news--old-pictures-etc
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« Reply #191 on: September 17, 2021, 11:11:43 »

Crew training diagrams in the timetable from 20 September 2021. Exeter depot to Okehampton then a few trips between Yeoford and Okehampton before back to Exeter. Repeats again during afternoon.
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« Reply #192 on: September 18, 2021, 10:17:39 »

Times now showing on RealTimeTrains for the training runs

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« Reply #193 on: September 19, 2021, 12:19:57 »

Network Rail have issued a warning about the public accessing the line with test train activity due to ramp up next week.

This from Devon Live:

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/safety-warning-issued-trains-begin-5935548
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« Reply #194 on: October 10, 2021, 16:23:18 »

Heresay, but seems reasonable, so I'll post it, NR» (Network Rail - home page) and GWR (Great Western Railway) to announce formally start of service in December 'this coming week - Week beginning 11 Oct 2021', Advertising and promotion to start  shortly after. We'll see.
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