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« on: May 29, 2017, 16:11:48 » |
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Page 44 of the Conservative manifesto https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/manifesto2017/Manifesto2017.pdf says: We will create a national infrastructure police force, bringing together the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, The Ministry of Defence Police and the British Transport Police to improve the protection of critical infrastructure.... Now I know that the MoD police is not the Military Police, but where is the logic in this change - unless it is to try and cover up the 50% cut in the MoD policer budget. |
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ChrisB
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2017, 16:24:17 » |
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Would save back office costs for sure. Duties too different to easily combine duties for more flexible workforce, I'd have thought
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2017, 16:39:27 » |
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Its all about saving money and nothing to do with improving Policing
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JayMac
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2017, 17:56:38 » |
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You can bet that where there are areas currently covered by more than one of these non territorial police forces, it won't just be back office functions being cut. There will be cuts to attested constables too.
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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ChrisB
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2017, 18:33:44 » |
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In the current security emergency, they won't be allowed to get away with that...
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2017, 18:46:09 » |
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These three clearly work together already. BTP▸ called on help from the CNC, and MoD police forces for the armed officers on trains and stations through the past few days.
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JayMac
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2017, 18:50:15 » |
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In the current security emergency, they won't be allowed to get away with that...
There has been a substantial or severe threat from international terrorism in the UK▸ since 2010. That didn't stop Theresa May as Home Secretary making cuts in front line policing numbers. I see no commitment from her to increase police numbers. Nor do I see a commitment that numbers in the non territorial police forces will be maintained after a merger. More police means higher taxes. Unless Diane Abbot is doing the maths. |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2017, 19:49:19 » |
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I think I heard that she is increasing numbers in her nanufesto, but crrtainly not as far as Corbyn. Threat far higher now than in 2010, she would lise votes big time with more cuts
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2017, 13:03:05 » |
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I think I heard that she is increasing numbers in her nanufesto, but crrtainly not as far as Corbyn. Threat far higher now than in 2010, she would lise votes big time with more cuts
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2017, 14:27:55 » |
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I think I heard that she is increasing numbers in her nanufesto, but crrtainly not as far as Corbyn. Threat far higher now than in 2010, she would lise votes big time with more cuts
Nanufesto? Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okpb0-VWntk |
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Things take longer to happen than you think they will, and then they happen faster than you thought they could.
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JayMac
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2017, 14:28:15 » |
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I think I heard that she is increasing numbers in her nanufesto, but crrtainly not as far as Corbyn.
Heard? No need for hearsay, just read it. Link earlier in the thread. No commitment in it to increase front line police numbers. Threat far higher now than in 2010.
Nope. As of today it's at the same level. Unless you are referring to just the first 21 days of January 2010. https://www.mi5.gov.uk/threat-levels |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2017, 14:39:41 » |
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Indeed, but if you ask Joe Public anytime now, you'll find that they perceive the threat to be higher, what with MCR last week.....
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2017, 18:39:02 » |
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Remember this is the PM who when the Home Secretary implemented the Windsor Report into UK▸ Policing ............. numbers of Police Officers, Police Stations, Forensic Science, have all reduced and there is "collaboration" across Police borders for things like Dog Units, SOCO, Armed response ............. etc
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