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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2017, 13:33:41 » |
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Really can't agree with calling this bloke's area of responsibility the "West of England", I'm afraid. WTF is going on here?
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2017, 14:35:19 » |
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Really can't agree with calling this bloke's area of responsibility the "West of England", I'm afraid. WTF is going on here?
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2017, 15:05:32 » |
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Really can't agree with calling this bloke's area of responsibility the "West of England", I'm afraid. WTF is going on here?
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Couldn't agree more. It's an unfortunate choice of name. But then " Former Avon Regional Territory" would be even more unfortunate. |
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2017, 15:06:43 » |
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2017, 15:35:53 » |
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Is there a secret government plan to drag Gloucestershire, Wiltshire and the rest of Somerset into this area?
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2017, 17:23:48 » |
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Well it's sometimes referred to as Counties that Used to Be Avon. Perhaps the Foreign Office, or the Diplomatic Corps, ruled out CUBAFART? Then again, seeing as Boris Johnson's in charge, they probably didn't.
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2017, 17:27:56 » |
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Really can't agree with calling this bloke's area of responsibility the "West of England", I'm afraid. WTF is going on here?
Paul ....ah, but you have forgotten that the Government now refers to the far 'South West' not as the 'West of England' but as the 'South West Peninsula'......   |
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2017, 17:36:51 » |
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Seriously though, what could you call the region? Let's assume for the moment that it's not going to expand in area, at least beyond the possibly integration of North Somerset. "Greater Bristol" or even "Bristol and Bath" both emphasise the devilish dominance of the cities. "Avon" harks back to the past. Some sort of amalgam of South Gloucestershire, Bristol, Bath & North-East Somerset might possibly be acceptable but is going to be a mouthful – even if it's pared down to "South Gloucestershire and North-East Somerset", which would also stress the preposterous preponderance of the reprehensible rurals.
I'm struggling to think of other geographic features that could form the basis of a regional name. Too far south for the Cotswolds, too far north for the Mendips. That only leaves the rivers. Greater Avon & Severn?!!!
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2017, 18:05:10 » |
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Avon might hark back to the past, but is simple and most people remember it.
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2017, 18:08:20 » |
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The Westcountry is Devon, Cornwall, Dorset & Somerset......beyond that it's Welsh borders (includes Bristol/Bath etc) Midlands & oop North I'm afraid!  |
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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2017, 18:28:05 » |
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Nothing wrong with City & County of Bristol and others.
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« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2017, 18:29:20 » |
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Seriously though, what could you call the region? ....
I'm struggling to think of other geographic features that could form the basis of a regional name. ....
I've scratched around with a few maps and thoughts and come up with a History of Wales website showing ancient kingdoms of Wales and England. I note that Wales has stepped back to some of its ancient names - such as Powys, which was once a mighty and large Kingdom. And on that basis I propose Atrebatia. I don't expect huge whoops of delight ... I don't expect people to be striking their foreheads with the ball of their hands and saying "Of course - why didn't I think of that?". But there is a logic to it. In olden times, Kingdoms were much shaped by geographic / travel and transport structures, and much of that remains to this day. So Atrebatia is a surprisingly apt area - covering a larger swathe of land to the side of the river (Bristol) Avon up to Bath, and carrying on to include much of West and North Wiltshire which are so logically part of the travel to work area, yet seem to have little or no influence over the overall planning for that area. You won't find #Atrebatia trending on Twitter. You'll find very little on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/atrebatia.uk/ - but then someone has to grab the real estate with such a brilliant idea, haven't they? |
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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2017, 18:35:54 » |
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Seriously though, what could you call the region? ....
I'm struggling to think of other geographic features that could form the basis of a regional name. ....
I've scratched around with a few maps and thoughts and come up with a History of Wales website showing ancient kingdoms of Wales and England. I note that Wales has stepped back to some of its ancient names - such as Powys, which was once a mighty and large Kingdom. And on that basis I propose Atrebatia. I don't expect huge whoops of delight ... I don't expect people to be striking their foreheads with the ball of their hands and saying "Of course - why didn't I think of that?". But there is a logic to it. In olden times, Kingdoms were much shaped by geographic / travel and transport structures, and much of that remains to this day. So Atrebatia is a surprisingly apt area - covering a larger swathe of land to the side of the river (Bristol) Avon up to Bath, and carrying on to include much of West and North Wiltshire which are so logically part of the travel to work area, yet seem to have little or no influence over the overall planning for that area. You won't find #Atrebatia trending on Twitter. You'll find very little on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/atrebatia.uk/ - but then someone has to grab the real estate with such a brilliant idea, haven't they? Sounds like an indigestion treatment. "Pass the Atrebatia dear, I knew that third pasty was going to be too much!" |
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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2017, 18:42:13 » |
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Sounds like an indigestion treatment. "Pass the Atrebatia dear, I knew that third pasty was going to be too much!"
If it helps smooth the (travel and transport) routes through the area, isn't it a form or indigestion treatment. How appropriate! |
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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2017, 19:23:30 » |
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Really can't agree with calling this bloke's area of responsibility the "West of England", I'm afraid. WTF is going on here?
Paul ....ah, but you have forgotten that the Government now refers to the far 'South West' not as the 'West of England' but as the 'South West Peninsula'...... I think that must have been on a 'need to know' basis. So I guess I didn't... Paul |
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