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« on: February 22, 2008, 10:24:00 »

For all long suffering passengers, here is the song that sums it up

http://www.morgle.com/firstgreatwestern.htm

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2008, 11:07:35 »

For all long suffering passengers, here is the song that sums it up

http://www.morgle.com/firstgreatwestern.htm


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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2008, 11:31:06 »

Some people have nothing whats so ever better to do with their time it's frightening!
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2008, 12:22:55 »

Some people have nothing whats so ever better to do with their time it's frightening!
Anyone would think FGW (First Great Western) are the only ones who have overcrowding problems by listening to that! never been a great fan of country and western.  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2008, 12:50:36 »

you are Right vacman...some people dont or dont want to relise that overcrowding isnt only something that happens in our region
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2008, 13:45:57 »

have you noticed that FGW (First Great Western) managers never use the word "overcrowding".  they call it "crowding" instead
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2008, 14:29:11 »

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Some people have nothing whats so ever better to do with their time it's frightening!

I stand to be corrected on the figures, but FGW (First Great Western) have managed to generate 7 serious blogs about their performance and 3 regularly viewed forums, these begun primarly due to FGW^s running of the franchise. It was only a matter of time before the shambles was captured in verse, the only surprising thing is that it^s taken so long!!!

We^ve all got better things to do than post here if FGW/DaFT» (Department for Transport - critical sounding abbreviation I discourage - about)/Notwork Rail/ORR» (Office of Rail and Road, formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) and the rest pulled their fingers out and started providing a decent rail service, or at least could be honest enough to tell their ^customers^ what the hell is going on and what they are going to do about it and when, and ^we^ the ^customers^ actually see it happen.

And until something does happen ^on the ground^ then quite rightly I for one am quite happy to wave fake tickets and write to my MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) and DafT and post here and elsewhere until something is done about it.

Up until recently there has been little indication that our ^Gord^, who seems to be a bit distracted by NUFC sponsorship problems, was taking any of this seriously, well perhaps he does now.

Alistair Darling is the mug in the organ grinders monkeys hand.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2008, 16:25:22 »

It's a shame Billy Bragg isn't a Janner.

Would be interesting to hear his take on the issue.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2008, 10:48:47 »

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Some people have nothing whats so ever better to do with their time it's frightening!

I stand to be corrected on the figures, but FGW (First Great Western) have managed to generate 7 serious blogs about their performance and 3 regularly viewed forums, these begun primarly due to FGW^s running of the franchise. It was only a matter of time before the shambles was captured in verse, the only surprising thing is that it^s taken so long!!!

We^ve all got better things to do than post here if FGW/DaFT» (Department for Transport - critical sounding abbreviation I discourage - about)/Notwork Rail/ORR» (Office of Rail and Road, formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) and the rest pulled their fingers out and started providing a decent rail service, or at least could be honest enough to tell their ^customers^ what the hell is going on and what they are going to do about it and when, and ^we^ the ^customers^ actually see it happen.

And until something does happen ^on the ground^ then quite rightly I for one am quite happy to wave fake tickets and write to my MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) and DafT and post here and elsewhere until something is done about it.

Up until recently there has been little indication that our ^Gord^, who seems to be a bit distracted by NUFC sponsorship problems, was taking any of this seriously, well perhaps he does now.

Alistair Darling is the mug in the organ grinders monkeys hand.


I lived in Kent for many years and I'm always amazed that South Eastern have never generated the bad feelings that FGW seem to have done (ok - I know DfT» (Department for Transport - about) etc etc etc).

I decided to have a look online and found sod all!

I did find this though http://www.jonathanshaw.org.uk/?PageId=8f2d2331-4490-a544-9583-e3683b694517

Have a look at some prices as well and the price rises. I used to live in Ashford and most trains left there full in a morning. Oh, and first class - really worth the extra money! You get the same sized, same design seat in the same carriage as standard, but it is coloured red instead of blue. Last time I went to Kent I went 1st Class (a rare treat) - fantastic on FGW but sat in standard class on SET (Super Express Train (now IET)) - even the conductor joked that it wasn't really worth me moving into 1st as there was no difference.

Worth noting too that the seats are uncomfortable and have no leg room. Comparing the two standards of rolling stock (and SET are refreshing their stock too), FGW win hands down - Standard HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) (refresh) on FGW is far better than 1st on SET. For the record, Charing X to Ashford, fastest train just over an hour, slowest normally 1 hour 30/40.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2008, 11:01:05 »

Not SET (Super Express Train (now IET)) but SWT (South West Trains) 450 desiro blue trains have the same seats in First Class as the awful Wessex Trains 158 refurb!!
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2008, 11:22:00 »

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Some people have nothing whats so ever better to do with their time it's frightening!

I stand to be corrected on the figures, but FGW (First Great Western) have managed to generate 7 serious blogs about their performance and 3 regularly viewed forums, these begun primarly due to FGW^s running of the franchise. It was only a matter of time before the shambles was captured in verse, the only surprising thing is that it^s taken so long!!!

We^ve all got better things to do than post here if FGW/DaFT» (Department for Transport - critical sounding abbreviation I discourage - about)/Notwork Rail/ORR» (Office of Rail and Road, formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) and the rest pulled their fingers out and started providing a decent rail service, or at least could be honest enough to tell their ^customers^ what the hell is going on and what they are going to do about it and when, and ^we^ the ^customers^ actually see it happen.

And until something does happen ^on the ground^ then quite rightly I for one am quite happy to wave fake tickets and write to my MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) and DafT and post here and elsewhere until something is done about it.

Up until recently there has been little indication that our ^Gord^, who seems to be a bit distracted by NUFC sponsorship problems, was taking any of this seriously, well perhaps he does now.

Alistair Darling is the mug in the organ grinders monkeys hand.


I lived in Kent for many years and I'm always amazed that South Eastern have never generated the bad feelings that FGW seem to have done (ok - I know DfT» (Department for Transport - about) etc etc etc).

I decided to have a look online and found sod all!

I did find this though http://www.jonathanshaw.org.uk/?PageId=8f2d2331-4490-a544-9583-e3683b694517

Have a look at some prices as well and the price rises. I used to live in Ashford and most trains left there full in a morning. Oh, and first class - really worth the extra money! You get the same sized, same design seat in the same carriage as standard, but it is coloured red instead of blue. Last time I went to Kent I went 1st Class (a rare treat) - fantastic on FGW but sat in standard class on SET (Super Express Train (now IET)) - even the conductor joked that it wasn't really worth me moving into 1st as there was no difference.

Worth noting too that the seats are uncomfortable and have no leg room. Comparing the two standards of rolling stock (and SET are refreshing their stock too), FGW win hands down - Standard HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) (refresh) on FGW is far better than 1st on SET. For the record, Charing X to Ashford, fastest train just over an hour, slowest normally 1 hour 30/40.

There have been quite a few Parliamentary Questions asked about South Eastern issues (link below.)
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4456.msg8231#msg8231
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