Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 22:55 20 Apr 2025
 
- RAF jets intercept Russian aircraft near Nato airspace
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 10/05/25 - BRTA Westbury
10/05/25 - Model Railsay Show, Calne
13/05/25 - Melksham TUG / AGM
14/05/25 - West Wiltshire RUG

On this day
20th Apr (1789)
Opening of Sapperton Canal Tunnel

Train RunningCancelled
21:09 Portsmouth Harbour to Bristol Temple Meads
22:10 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads
22:45 London Paddington to Bristol Parkway
21/04/25 08:03 Bristol Temple Meads to Weymouth
21/04/25 12:12 Salisbury to Bristol Temple Meads
Short Run
20:09 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
20:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21:57 Worcester Shrub Hill to Bristol Temple Meads
22:30 Cardiff Central to Westbury
23:11 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
23:13 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa
21/04/25 06:28 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 06:57 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
21/04/25 07:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 08:00 Cardiff Central to Plymouth
21/04/25 08:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 09:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
21/04/25 09:28 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 10:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
21/04/25 10:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 10:45 Bristol Temple Meads to Salisbury
21/04/25 11:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
21/04/25 11:29 Weymouth to Gloucester
21/04/25 11:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 12:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
21/04/25 12:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 13:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
21/04/25 13:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 14:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
21/04/25 14:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 14:59 Cardiff Central to Taunton
21/04/25 15:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 16:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
21/04/25 16:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 16:31 Barnstaple to Axminster
21/04/25 17:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
21/04/25 17:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 18:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 19:28 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 20:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
21/04/25 21:30 Cardiff Central to Frome
Delayed
20:00 London Paddington to Plymouth
20:25 Penzance to Exeter St Davids
23:12 Bristol Temple Meads to Weston-Super-Mare
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
April 20, 2025, 23:14:08 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[157] Fortuitous connections ... and an App which fails to offer the...
[93] RNLI station celebrates 10 years of saving lives - Portishead,...
[56] Salisbury Station, 2025 edition
[53] Eyesight rules for motorists unsafe, says coroner
[48] FOSS and FOSW validity - some quirks
[47] St Erth station - facilities, footbridge, improvements, incide...
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Shortened HSTs to begin service with GWR, September 2017 *unconfirmed*  (Read 6984 times)
JayMac
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 19304



View Profile
« on: April 01, 2017, 02:54:16 »

From a Facebook post on the UK (United Kingdom) HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) Enthusiast Group page:

Quote
6th September, Exeter to Penzance, if all goes to plan, first 2+4 HST with sliding doors and CET (Controlled Emission Toilet) toilets enters service.

All but eight of the 24 power cars being converted are known. The twelve First Group owned examples plus 12 Angel owned. Four of the Angel ones are already painted in green, they are staying.

11 sets being converted with 4 spare vehicles. Eight diagrams a day on the Exeter-Penzance and Cardiff-Taunton/Exeter axis once all are in service.

So 2nd September OC Open Day, 6th September, HST second life begins. Could be a very interesting month.

Whilst this isn't from an official source, I've no reason to disbelieve it. One set of Mk3s with CE toilets and power doors is nearing completion, and two Class 43 power cars have already been modified for operation with power door Mk3s. More converted HST sets will come on stream as the first few Class 800/0s enter passenger service from this summer.
Logged

"Good news for regular users of Euston Station in London! One day they will die. Then they won't have to go to Euston Station ever again." - David Mitchell
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 43857



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2017, 03:25:21 »

But will they still be known as "High Speed Trains"?
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, TravelWatch SouthWest Board Member
JayMac
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 19304



View Profile
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2017, 03:46:12 »

But will they still be known as "High Speed Trains"?

Humdrum Short Trains?  Grin
Logged

"Good news for regular users of Euston Station in London! One day they will die. Then they won't have to go to Euston Station ever again." - David Mitchell
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3564

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2017, 06:53:06 »

I question the source immediately as there is 6 green power cars for starters.
Logged

All posts are my own personal believes, opinions and understandings!
Western Pathfinder
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1655



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2017, 07:14:45 »

It may well be the case that these short formed HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) sets will be classed as 43 01 04 17 Grin
Logged
PhilWakely
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 2165



View Profile
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2017, 07:44:17 »

I question the source immediately as there is 6 green power cars for starters.
Only two of these have been modified for power door operation.
Logged
NickB
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 733


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2017, 08:49:33 »

And there was me thinking it was an April Fools joke...
Logged
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3564

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2017, 09:12:30 »

And there was me thinking it was an April Fools joke...

I'm in 2 minds as it's something that's actually happening. The only joke is the start date if anything. 2 power cars and 4 carriages are in the process of being converted for trials.
Logged

All posts are my own personal believes, opinions and understandings!
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 43857



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2017, 09:23:08 »

And there was me thinking it was an April Fools joke...

I'm in 2 minds as it's something that's actually happening. The only joke is the start date if anything. 2 power cars and 4 carriages are in the process of being converted for trials.

A sea of fantasy on a bedrock of truth?
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, TravelWatch SouthWest Board Member
John R
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4416


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2017, 09:47:32 »

I question the source immediately as there is 6 green power cars for starters.
It didn't say that there are only 4. It said that 4 owned by Angel are in green, it may well be the other 2 are owned by First.

Curious if it is an April Fool, because as noted the only thing that is in doubt is the start date, and the date chosen is perfectly plausible.
Logged
phile
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1382

Language spoken Welsh as well as English


View Profile Email
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2017, 10:19:01 »

From a Facebook post on the UK (United Kingdom) HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) Enthusiast Group page:

Quote
6th September, Exeter to Penzance, if all goes to plan, first 2+4 HST with sliding doors and CET (Controlled Emission Toilet) toilets enters service.

All but eight of the 24 power cars being converted are known. The twelve First Group owned examples plus 12 Angel owned. Four of the Angel ones are already painted in green, they are staying.

11 sets being converted with 4 spare vehicles. Eight diagrams a day on the Exeter-Penzance and Cardiff-Taunton/Exeter axis once all are in service.

So 2nd September OC Open Day, 6th September, HST second life begins. Could be a very interesting month.

Whilst this isn't from an official source, I've no reason to disbelieve it. One set of Mk3s with CE toilets and power doors is nearing completion, and two Class 43 power cars have already been modified for operation with power door Mk3s. More converted HST sets will come on stream as the first few Class 800/0s enter passenger service from this summer.

It is a fact although I wouldn't place too much reliance on numbers at at this stage.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules via admin@railcustomer.info. Full legal statement (here).

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page