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« on: March 31, 2017, 01:16:56 » |
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There is a Super Off Peak Day Return fare ( code SOD ) from Basingstoke to Highbury & Islington, route NOT LONDON, for £23.50. This is a Mon-Fri fare with time restrictions including not valid on trains due to arrive Waterloo before 12:00. Can anyone figure out a way of buying and using this ticket on a valid route?
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grahame
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2017, 03:35:17 » |
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Can anyone figure out a way of buying and using this ticket on a valid route?
Basigstoke station ticket office Probably valid via North London Line or East London Line (but probably dates back to the days of the through Basignstoke to East Anglia trains?)
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ellendune
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2017, 07:40:41 » |
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Probably valid via North London Line or East London Line (but probably dates back to the days of the through Basignstoke to East Anglia trains?)
Yes go to Richmond via either Clapham Jn or Reading and then take the North London Line.
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teamsaint
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2017, 08:09:47 » |
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Blimey, even I know that it is called the London Overground, now !!
Anyway, a tip for southern based travellers that I recently learned, from Andover ticket office, is that the standard " London Terminals" tickets on SW trains, EG from Basingstoke, are also valid to Victoria, London Bridge ( by changing at Clapham Junction) or Paddington via Reading. The latter particularly useful during the all too frequent signals issues in South London.
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ellendune
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2017, 08:12:48 » |
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Blimey, even I know that it is called the London Overground, now !!
The North London Line is only part of London Overground. Just as on the underground we still need to use the names of individual lines to describe which one we mean.
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grahame
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2017, 08:13:55 » |
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Blimey, even I know that it is called the London Overground, now !!
Indeed ... but "London Overground" covers multiple lines, and I chose my wording to pinpoint two of them that are potentially relevant in this case.
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teamsaint
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2017, 08:20:20 » |
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Sorry. In way over my head. Great advice from everybody as usual.
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rogerw
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2017, 09:43:01 » |
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The simplest route I can think of is Clapham Junction, then Willesden Junction, then NLL to Highbury and Islington. At times there is no need to change at Willesden Junction as the trains run through from Clapham Junction to Stratford. There is another through service from Clapham Junction via the south London and East London lines but this passes through zone 1 so would probably be invalid as I assume "not London" precludes zone 1
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Trowres
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2017, 10:24:35 » |
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Probably valid via North London Line or East London Line (but probably dates back to the days of the through Basignstoke to East Anglia trains?)
The reason I posted the enquiry is that, as far as on line journey planners are concerned, the routes via Clapham Jn and North London Line are NOT valid.
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ChrisB
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2017, 10:28:32 » |
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Anyway, a tip for southern based travellers that I recently learned, from Andover ticket office, is that the standard " London Terminals" tickets on SW trains, EG from Basingstoke, are also valid to Victoria, London Bridge ( by changing at Clapham Junction) or Paddington via Reading. The latter particularly useful during the all too frequent signals issues in South London. London Bridge via Clapham Junction. Interesting. How's that done? :-) The latter is currently very un-useful as the Thames Valley get daily signal failures currently.
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ChrisB
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2017, 10:34:06 » |
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The reason I posted the enquiry is that, as far as on line journey planners are concerned, the routes via Clapham Jn and North London Line are NOT valid. How do you know? You can't use a 'via' option, can you? Otherwise they look for the fastest journey between the two points, including tube where necessary. So you get Vauxhall via Clapham Junction offers, tather than the trip via Willesden Junction
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Trowres
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2017, 10:57:46 » |
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The reason I posted the enquiry is that, as far as on line journey planners are concerned, the routes via Clapham Jn and North London Line are NOT valid. How do you know? You can't use a 'via' option, can you? Otherwise they look for the fastest journey between the two points, including tube where necessary. So you get Vauxhall via Clapham Junction offers, tather than the trip via Willesden Junction Yes you can use the National Rail site's "via" option (Willesden Junction). The appropriate journey is provided, changing once at Clapham Junction. But it offers split single tickets instead of a through fare.
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ChrisB
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2017, 11:03:47 » |
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It's a return fare, so you are putting in a return trip request as well for the same day?
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2017, 11:08:16 » |
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Anyway, a tip for southern based travellers that I recently learned, from Andover ticket office, is that the standard " London Terminals" tickets on SW trains, EG from Basingstoke, are also valid to Victoria, London Bridge ( by changing at Clapham Junction) or Paddington via Reading. London Bridge via Clapham Junction. Interesting. How's that done? :-) A ticket from Basingstoke and points west on SWT▸ , ( but not from Fareham for some reason; I suspect because it is part of Portsmouth routeing group) is valid to 10 members of the "London Terminals" fares group, namely Paddington, Victoria, Vauxhall, Waterloo, Waterloo East, Charing Cross, Cannon St, London Bridge, Blackfriars, and City Thameslink. Our tickets used to be issued to "London SR‡" which included all those except Paddington. Validity into Paddington has always been there since London Terminals came in, I have used it regularly over the years. Many of the announcements made during disruption imply that ticket acceptance has "been arranged" on the GW▸ route, but it is always there anyway, except for anyone travelling on a TOC▸ specific or geographically restricted route, such as via Woking. The normal route if going to London Bridge is via Waterloo East; however you can also get from Clapham Junction to London Bridge using for example LO and SN changing at Denmark Hill. Paul
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« Last Edit: March 31, 2017, 11:19:50 by paul7755 »
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teamsaint
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2017, 11:11:36 » |
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Anyway, a tip for southern based travellers that I recently learned, from Andover ticket office, is that the standard " London Terminals" tickets on SW trains, EG from Basingstoke, are also valid to Victoria, London Bridge ( by changing at Clapham Junction) or Paddington via Reading. The latter particularly useful during the all too frequent signals issues in South London. London Bridge via Clapham Junction. Interesting. How's that done? :-) The latter is currently very un-useful as the Thames Valley get daily signal failures currently. Re London Bridge, yes sorry , my bad. Bloody amateurs eh ? ( Excuse, I seldom go to LB) I'm sure he mentioned LB, so could he have meant travelling on from waterloo East ? I'll check next week if anybody is interested. Sorry to hear about your TV signalling failures. Edit: Thanks to Paul7755 for clarifying about terminals.
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