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« on: March 28, 2017, 08:16:11 »

A rather odd tweet from GWR (Great Western Railway) Help this morning about the 0546 from Exeter St Davids being delayed at Taunton due to passengers causing a disturbance on a train.

The 0546 from Exeter St Davids subsequently departed Taunton 46 minutes late and then missed the scheduled stops at Castle Cary, Westbury, Pewsey, Hungerford and Newbury.

Does anyone know anything further about this?
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2017, 08:21:06 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) internal information states 'civil police attending a fare evader'.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2017, 08:33:01 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) internal information states 'civil police attending a fare evader'.


OK, I thought it might be something like that.

There were a lot of very annoyed passengers at Pewsey this morning who had to wait an hour for the next train!
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2017, 08:37:58 »

with no compensation due either....
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2017, 08:45:17 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) internal information states 'civil police attending a fare evader'.


OK, I thought it might be something like that.

There were a lot of very annoyed passengers at Pewsey this morning who had to wait an hour for the next train!

I can imagine ...

The train that was due at 07:19 passed through non-stop at 07:49; next train due at 08:09.  Had the delayed train made all its calls, it would have been later still and getting in the way of that next train - some GWR were between a rock and a hard place on this one once the train was held up at Taunton.

I expect the 07:04 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa via Swindon was even busier than usual, with the 07:01 Paddington effectively cancelled.   That goodness that's a 158 not a 153!
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 09:09:55 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) internal information states 'civil police attending a fare evader'.


Does anyone else think there must be more to it that simple fare evasion?  I assume that the person in question must have done more than avoid paying a fare in order for the powers that be to deem it necessary and proportionate to delay a whole train to deal with it. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2017, 09:11:53 »

Probably refused to pay and also refused to alight
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 09:15:49 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) internal information states 'civil police attending a fare evader'.


Civil police??!  Huh
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2017, 09:22:00 »

Yes, where are the nearest BTP (British Transport Police) to TAU» (Taunton - next trains)?......and how much longer would it take them to get there? :-)

(I know they're civil too!)
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2017, 09:44:13 »

I can add that apparently is was a drunken fare evader, so you could possibly infer from that there might have been threatening behaviour?
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2017, 10:36:34 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) internal information states 'civil police attending a fare evader'.


Civil police??!  Huh

I believe "territorial police" would be more correct to describe the general, Home Office controlled, local police forces, as opposed to BTP (British Transport Police) and the other specialist police forces. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2017, 11:48:25 »

with no compensation due either....

Unless the passengers sue the alleged offender  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2017, 12:38:47 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) internal information states 'civil police attending a fare evader'.


Civil police??!  Huh

I believe "territorial police" would be more correct to describe the general, Home Office controlled, local police forces, as opposed to BTP (British Transport Police) and the other specialist police forces. 

I should imagine those territorial police are as defensive of their territory as the civil police are ever so nice about things!  Grin

But the cause of the incident - p!ssed & objectionable at that time on a Tuesday morning - a sad state of affairs for that person.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2017, 22:26:00 »

Talking to the people involved, others on this thread have correctly guessed the sequence of events.
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2017, 10:49:11 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) internal information states 'civil police attending a fare evader'.


Civil police??!  Huh

I believe "territorial police" would be more correct to describe the general, Home Office controlled, local police forces, as opposed to BTP (British Transport Police) and the other specialist police forces. 

Unless they were just really very, very polite police, perhaps?
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