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A number of things proposed seem very similar to operations that SWT▸ used to do or tried out in its tenure.
The end-to-end Weymouth to Waterloo journey has slowed down since electrification was completed all the way because of the progressive insertion of stops through the years. At one time there was often only the one stop after Bournemouth at Southampton.
Now there is Brockenhurst, Southampton Airport, Winchester, Basingstoke and Woking etc on various services. It looks like the speed up is achieved from dropping some of the stations between Bournemouth and Weymouth from the fastest service.
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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2017, 14:40:50 » |
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Also of interest to me (as I use it from time to time) is the Bristol Temple Meads to London Waterloo service. That will now follow routes used by First GWR▸ . Is that likely to make for any changes?
That will rather depend on the Service Level Commitment. Hopefully the status quo at least will be maintained with 3 services in each direction between Bristol TM‡ and Waterloo. The spec for Bristol was given on a spreadsheet annex to the ITT▸ , and is as follows: Bidders must provide the level of service provided in the December 2015 timetable until December 2018. From the December 2018 timetable onwards bidders must consult with DfT» on the provision of any service in excess of the level provided in the December 2015 timetable. Bidders may extend these services beyond Salisbury at their discretion, subject to the other requirements in this TSS being met. Paul
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Also of interest to me (as I use it from time to time) is the Bristol Temple Meads to London Waterloo service. That will now follow routes used by First GWR▸ . Is that likely to make for any changes?
That will rather depend on the Service Level Commitment. Hopefully the status quo at least will be maintained with 3 services in each direction between Bristol TM‡ and Waterloo. There is a requirement to maintain the same level of service on Bristol TM to Salisbury as in December 2015. However, extension of these specific services through to Waterloo (or anywhere else) was at the bidder's discretion, providing all other requirements were met. EDIT - I see that paul7755 was making the same point at the same time. There could be a possibility maybe to combine with Salisbury to Southampton instead.
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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2017, 14:48:52 » |
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The handover date of 20 August comes during the Waterloo upgrade when 9 platforms will be closed, with a drastically reduced service operating during that period.
Having commuted from Dorking to South West London for the last 5 years, I think that South West Trains have done a pretty good job. They have their "moments" (invariably caused by Network Rail issues) but it has been rare for my trains in the morning and evening to be cancelled and they are very rarely short-formed.
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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2017, 15:15:23 » |
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It'll be good to see Platforms 4-6 at Reading being used to their full potential with up to seven trains departing from them per hour (comprising four Waterloo and three Redhill/Gatwicks), up from the current four. Though that'll be a strain on the flat junction at Wokingham!
This will transform connections at Reading. Currently most Waterloo arrivals exactly miss South Wales trains, and most North Downs arrivals almost exactly miss Bristol trains and Oxford stoppers. A lot of commuter and business travel to/ from Wokingham and Bracknell will become much more competitive with driving.
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2017, 15:34:23 » |
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The handover date of 20 August comes during the Waterloo upgrade when 9 platforms will be closed, with a drastically reduced service operating during that period.
I think this point gets overworked, the people at the coalface won't change, it shouldn't really be too difficult to just leave everything as planned by NR» and the present operations staff. It isn't as if they all walk out the door on handover day is it? The first noticeable (e.g. timetable) changes surely won't be until December? Paul
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2017, 15:51:09 » |
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The handover date of 20 August comes during the Waterloo upgrade when 9 platforms will be closed, with a drastically reduced service operating during that period.
I think this point gets overworked, the people at the coalface won't change, it shouldn't really be too difficult to just leave everything as planned by NR» and the present operations staff. It isn't as if they all walk out the door on handover day is it? The industry itself has been quite vociferous in asking for the handover date to be moved, so I think it has some justification.
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2017, 16:34:23 » |
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That ca. 2000 4 tph service to Reading was very odd, in that it only ran off-peak: i.e. from 9:42 ex Reading to 15:37 ex Waterloo. The peak service was much as now, 2 tph plus one or two extras. The morning peak now has an second extra train at 6:23 as well as 7:23, but nothing to quite match the old 7:13. After Martins Heron that only stopped at Ascot/Staines/Richmond/Clapham, so was 10 minutes faster than the best now (arr 8:26).
I also remember that the off-peak service ran with 4-car trains. These days you only ever see 8-car trains, except recently I've seen a few 5-car ones (10-car isn't yet possible on this line). And on Saturdays you do see, and get apologised to for, 4-car trains if the Friday-night travellers were a bit rougher than usual.
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« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2017, 16:49:54 » |
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It's very hard to spot just what is being promised that's not required in the SLC▸ , as almost all of it is. For example, those journey time improvements - 10 minutes in the case of Reading. The SLC called for 2 tph to manage 1:12/1:13, which is a bit more than 10 minutes better.
The capacity figures are the hardest to compare, as the SLC is couched in terms of metres of train to or from Waterloo in each of the peak hours, not (like everything else) seats.
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« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2017, 17:08:54 » |
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I think this point gets overworked, the people at the coalface won't change, it shouldn't really be too difficult to just leave everything as planned by NR» and the present operations staff. It isn't as if they all walk out the door on handover day is it? The first noticeable (e.g. timetable) changes surely won't be until December? Paul It was the longer term I was concerned with rather than first week of September. It will take a while for new name badges all round. Currently, the 0851 from BRI» waits at Salisbury to wait for the EXD» to WAT to join onto the rear. Having looked at things, I can't find any reason why this arrangement would change. Apart from anything else, that train provides a local service to Keynsham, and stations from Bath to Westbury.
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« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2017, 17:14:39 » |
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It still doesn't answer the Wolmar question.
"What is franchising for?"
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« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2017, 17:15:14 » |
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Quoting the whole statement from [here] in case it disappears in time and we want a reference back. I've tried to make this scrollable ... Statement re South Western rail franchise award
Released : 27.03.2017
FirstGroup and MTR welcome South Western rail franchise award
FirstGroup plc and MTR Corporation Limited welcome today's announcement by the Department for Transport ('DfT» ') of its intention to award the new South Western rail franchise to our 70:30 joint venture First MTR South Western Trains Limited (the 'Franchise Operator'). The new franchise will operate from 20 August 2017 until at least August 2024.
Over the course of the franchise, £1.2bn will be invested to raise the quality of every aspect of train journeys on the South Western network. We are giving customers and community groups a say in setting priorities for that investment by focusing on the following areas, based on their feedback:
State of the art trains: We will introduce 750 new, spacious train carriages for the Windsor, Reading and London Suburban routes by December 2020, as well as 18 additional, fully refurbished trains (90 carriages) on the London-Portsmouth route from December 2018. We shall deliver 52,000 more peak seats per day at London Waterloo compared to today's services by December 2020. The rest of our mainland fleet will be refreshed and will have free, more reliable Wi-Fi, at-seat charging points and free infotainment as well as real time travel and connection information screens.
Additional and faster services: From December 2018 our plans will deliver faster journey times to stations including Hounslow, Reading, Southampton, Bournemouth, Weymouth, Portsmouth and Salisbury; double the service to both Reading and Windsor throughout the day; double the off-peak service between Southampton and Portsmouth and re-introduce through services between Portsmouth, Southampton, Bournemouth and Weymouth to aid regional connectivity. We will also significantly improve weekend services with more than 400 extra Sunday trains across the network.
Easier tickets and fares: We will introduce simpler fares with mobile and smart ticketing. These will include flexible season tickets and new lower fares for 16-18 year olds, recognising the importance of accessible rail travel. Claiming compensation will also be made simpler with the introduction of an easy-to-use 'delay repay' scheme for the first time on the network. Our new passenger app will be a key gateway to all travel options throughout the region.
Station improvement: £90m will be invested in our stations, including a major refurbishment at Southampton Central station. Car parks will be extended at key locations with at least 1,500 extra spaces and new electric vehicle charging points. We will use station buildings to host community projects and independent retailers. Passengers will also benefit from this summer's London Waterloo platform extension project that is scheduled for completion within days of the start of the new franchise. Further capacity at Waterloo will be introduced at the end of 2018 when the former Waterloo International platforms are fully redeveloped and brought back into use.
People and communities: An important objective is to increase engagement with customers, employees, local authorities and community groups to give them a real stake in the future of rail travel in their area. We will launch a £2.6m annual fund to support community projects across the franchise from April 2020. Connections between other local rail and bus services will deliver genuine joined up journeys, and we plan to introduce the biggest rail operator apprenticeship scheme in Britain.
Commenting on today's announcement, Secretary of State for Transport Chris Grayling said:
"This is great news for rail passengers. FirstGroup and MTR will deliver the improvements that people tell us they want right across the South Western franchise area, from Southampton and Portsmouth, to Bristol and Exeter, to Reading, Windsor and London.
"We are delivering the biggest rail modernisation programme for over a century and this franchise will deliver real changes for passengers, who can look forward to modern trains, faster journeys and a more reliable service."
FirstGroup Chief Executive Tim O'Toole said:
"We are delighted that our partnership with MTR has been selected by the DfT to run the South Western rail franchise, a key part of the country's railway network which millions of people rely on every day. Our successful bid will deliver the tangible improvements that customers and stakeholders have told us they want from this franchise. Passengers can look forward to new and better trains, more seats and services, quicker journey times, improved stations and more flexible fare options."
Jeremy Long, CEO▸ - European Business, MTR Corporation said:
"MTR is known across the world for the excellent quality of its rail services, and we look forward to working with FirstGroup to provide a best-in-class travel experience for passengers in London and the South West. Together we will deliver a major programme of upgrades, including improvements to both rail services and customer experience, for passengers travelling across the South Western network."
Key franchise terms
The new franchise will start on 20 August 2017 and is planned to run for a core period of seven years, with an extension option of up to eleven months at the DfT's discretion. Under the contract, the Franchise Operator will deliver £ 2.6bn real NPV* in premium payments to the Government over the core period. The JV shareholders will provide a loan of up to £30m, and £88m (of which 50% is bonded) in subordinated contingent loan facilities to the Franchise Operator, as well as a £15m performance bond and a season ticket bond of up to £80m. The franchise terms include GDP and Central London Employment revenue protection mechanisms to mitigate the financial impact of exogenous economic factors outside the control of the Franchise Operator, and a profit sharing arrangement whereby a proportion of profit in excess of pre-specified thresholds will be payable to the DfT.
The franchise will benefit from investment of £1.2bn, primarily during the first four years of the franchise, leading to enhanced customer experience and passenger capacity. Approximately £80m of investment will be directly funded by the Franchise Operator. Franchise passenger revenues, which were £991m in 2015/ 16, are expected to increase from the additional capacity created. FirstGroup expects to achieve margins comparable with the recent overall industry average and to earn an appropriate return over the life of the contract, reflecting the franchise risk profile. FirstGroup expects a working capital inflow of approximately £100m principally relating to season ticket monies, to be treated as restricted cash.
The franchise award is subject to the customary 'standstill period' of ten days, after which formal contracts will be signed by the DfT. As with other UK▸ rail franchise awards, the Competition and Markets Authority is also required by law to carry out a 'phase one review'.
* Net present value of forecast premium payments over the seven year core franchise period, expressed in 2017/18 prices and discounted using the DfT's 'real' discount rate of 3.5%.
Key benefits of the new South Western franchise:
New trains - 750 new carriages for suburban services
* Introduce 750 carriages by December 2020, forming 90 brand new trains primarily for London Suburban routes and Windsor/Reading lines
* Average age of the entire fleet coming down by almost half by December 2020
* New fleet will provide over 46% more peak capacity for our customers than today's trains on the Windsor, Reading and London Suburban routes
* Enhanced travelling experience for customers - free reliable Wi-Fi, at-seat charging points, air conditioning, toilets, wide gangways and wide doors to improve ease of boarding and alighting
Improved carriages - 90 for Portsmouth fast services / comfortable seating on all fast services
* 18 trains / 90 carriages refurbished to 'as new' for Portsmouth to London services by December 2018
* Comfortable 'two plus two' seating on all Portsmouth fast trains to London by December 2018
More seats - 22,000 extra morning peak seats into Waterloo and 30,000 in evening peak from Waterloo
* Boosting peak seats each weekday by around 30% by December 2020
Increased frequency, better weekend services and quicker journeys from December 2018
* Mainline journey times reduced, including Weymouth-London and Poole-London journey times reduced by up to 14 minutes; Bournemouth-London reduced by up to nine minutes and Southampton Central-London reduced by up to eight minutes. Trips from Portsmouth will be quicker with an average five minutes cut from fast journeys and up to seven minutes from slower trips
* Better connectivity on the South Coast, with four trains an hour between London and Portsmouth, direct service along the South Coast connecting communities from Portsmouth to Weymouth, and a second hourly semi-fast service between Portsmouth and Southampton
* Sunday afternoon services will match weekdays on most routes for the first time from 2018 with almost 400 more services; number of fast trains to Portsmouth will double on Sunday afternoons. West of England will see two trains per hour earlier on a Sunday than currently and we will speed up Weymouth services by deploying a standard weekday stopping pattern
* Double the number of trains each hour to Reading and Windsor from two to four - Reading will see two semi-fast and two stopping services every hour and Windsor will receive two extra semi-fast services via Hounslow
* We will improve late evening frequencies and later last trains across the network
Free and fast Wi-Fi on trains and stations
* Free Wi-Fi both on-board mainland trains and at stations, with up to five times greater bandwidth than today
* Introduce free infotainment to many of our mainland trains by December 2018, making films, catch-up TV, newspapers and magazines available - and full coverage of our mainland fleet by December 2020
Real-time information on all trains ensuring customers have a smooth and rapid, door-to-door journey
* Live updates to passenger information screens on all our mainland trains
Charging points accessible from every seat for all our mainland trains
* Our new suburban trains, introduced by December 2020, will all have charging points
* We will introduce charging points on all other mainland trains - Class 442s, Class 444s and 450s by December 2018, Class 158s and 159s by December 2020
New innovative customer app
* New customer app will make it the primary source of travel advice for our customers making it easier to use our trains, pointing customers towards less busy trains or less busy coaches within trains
Mobile ticketing and new smartcards
* Mobile phone barcode tickets will be available on the network for the first time, covering a wide range of journeys
* We will implement our smartcard scheme across the franchise including pay-as-you-go functionality
* We will offer flexible season products
Automatic Delay Repay
* We will bring in Delay Repay for the first time, making it simple and easy for our customers to claim for late trains with a fully automated process offered to those buying season and advance tickets direct on smartcards
£90m station investment
* £90m station investment programme, including the refurbishment of Southampton Central
* At least 1,500 new car parking spaces across the network and 60 electric vehicle charging points at stations
* New stations: we will work with stakeholders to progress plans for new stations such as Park Barn, Merrow and Wilton Parkway and others during the franchise
Working with the Isle of Wight community to develop proposals for Island Line's future
* We will engage with the Isle of Wight community to develop plans to secure a more sustainable Island Line
* Proposal to be submitted to Government with Island support
* Annual £50,000 Customer and Communities Improvement Fund for Island Line
More than 100 apprenticeships each year
* We plan to introduce the biggest rail operator apprenticeship scheme in Britain - we will launch our apprenticeship programme from franchise start on a wide range of courses
Customer and Communities Improvement Fund
* £2.6m annual fund for community projects across the franchise to be launched from April 2020
Investor information
A conference call for investors and analysts will be held at 8:30am today. Please call +44 (0) 20 7725 3354 in advance of the call to register and receive joining details. A presentation pack together with a pdf copy of this announcement and a playback facility will be available at www.firstgroupplc.com /investors.
Contacts at FirstGroup: Faisal Tabbah, Head of Investor Relations Stuart Butchers, Group Head of Media Tel: +44 (0) 20 7725 3354
Michael Harrison / Andrew Porter, Brunswick PR▸ Tel: +44 (0) 20 7404 5959
Contacts at MTR: Nick Collins, MHP Communications nick.collins@mhpc.com +44 (0) 7824 462 091
Notes Figures presented in this announcement are not audited. Certain statements included or incorporated by reference within this announcement may constitute 'forward-looking statements' with respect to the business, strategy and plans of FirstGroup and our current goals, assumptions and expectations relating to our future financial condition, performance and results. By their nature, forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, assumptions, uncertainties and other factors which may cause actual results, performance or achievements of FirstGroup to be materially different from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Shareholders are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the forward-looking statements. Except as required by the UK Listing Rules and applicable law, FirstGroup does not undertake any obligation to update or change any forward-looking statements to reflect events occurring after the date of this announcement.
About FirstGroup FirstGroup plc (LSE: FGP.L) is a leading transport operator in the UK and North America. With £5.2 billion in revenues and 110,000 employees, we transported around 2.2 billion passengers last year. Each of our five divisions is a leader in its field: In North America, First Student is the largest provider of student transportation with a fleet of around 47,000 yellow school buses, First Transit is one of the largest providers of outsourced transit management and contracting services, while Greyhound is the only nationwide operator of scheduled intercity coach services. In the UK, FirstGroup is one of Britain's largest bus operators running a fleet of some 6,200 buses, and we are one of the country's most experienced passenger rail operators, carrying around 140 million passengers last year. Our vision is to provide solutions for an increasingly congested world... keeping people moving and communities prospering. Visit our website at www.firstgroupplc.com and follow us @firstgroupplc on Twitter.
About MTR Corporation MTR Corporation is headquartered in Hong Kong and is acknowledged as one of the world's leading operators of metro, commuter, inter-city and airport rail systems with rail operations in Hong Kong, China, Australia, Sweden and the UK. It is also a property developer, and manages shopping malls, retail units, apartments and other major buildings along some of its lines.
In the UK, MTR is the operator of the Elizabeth Line concession (the name for the Crossrail route), and currently runs TfL» Rail services between Liverpool Street and Shenfield. MTR was a joint venture partner in London Overground Rail Operations Ltd (LOROL▸ ) between November 2007 and November 2016.
Listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange, MTR has a market capitalisation of approximately £22.3 billion, and is included on the FTSE4Good and Dow Jones Sustainability Indexes. It won over 50 awards in 2016 for quality, customer service and sustainability. ... and from a preview look like I've succeed!
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« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2017, 17:20:16 » |
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Yep - but can you change the font please? It's pretty hard to read.
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« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2017, 17:42:12 » |
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Yep - but can you change the font please? It's pretty hard to read.
Please feel free to quote it in a better scrolled way, Chris, and I'll delete the original post.
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« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2017, 17:50:11 » |
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It's pretty hard to read.
Device dependent. Readable on a PC monitor and Android tablet. Readable with pinch and zoom on an Android smartphone. No idea what it's like on Apple products.
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