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« on: February 21, 2008, 19:12:41 » |
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This one might be better.
Again, 2 votes.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 19:13:58 » |
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 19:15:34 » |
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442 is missing.... it is up! i thought Wessex electrics were for long distance..... |
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 19:18:18 » |
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Have no comment - i dont do local journeys
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 19:23:24 » |
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local stuff like severn beach and around bristol then pacer wins,due to better acceleration and basically being designed for that work,not long distance like fgw use them for
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 19:24:46 » |
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local stuff like severn beach and around bristol then pacer wins,due to better acceleration and basically being designed for that work,not long distance like fgw use them for
a- it's local and commuter b- you have 2 votes |
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 19:34:59 » |
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it is up! i thought Wessex electrics were for long distance..... 442s were very much both a local and long distance train! Weymouth to Poole all stations... they operated numerous Southampton area suburban services too. |
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 22:02:30 » |
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Obviously, if the opinions of 10 people here are valid- it was a mistake for FGW▸ to think that Mark 3s should be refurbed for commuter stock!
I am surprised about the popularity of the 150s!
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2008, 00:12:35 » |
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My vote for "Sprinter" is purely for a 150, which are the best diesel commuter/general purpouse unit! second is a Turbo, which are laid out very similar to a 150, Pacers loose out by not having enough doors.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2008, 07:54:54 » |
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My vote for "Sprinter" is purely for a 150, which are the best diesel commuter/general purpouse unit! second is a Turbo, which are laid out very similar to a 150, Pacers loose out by not having enough doors.
I gave votes to 150 and 158 as 150 is the best commuter stock and 158's can do commuter stints but still do a long distance service. But as for Turbos. They definatly don't get my vote as they are uncomfortable and in an awful condition. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2008, 09:45:06 » |
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Obviously, if the opinions of 10 people here are valid- it was a mistake for FGW▸ to think that Mark 3s should be refurbed for commuter stock!
ahhh but a 150 from Reading - London would be silly I voted sprinter/turbostar due to the door layout and acceleration. Pacer acceleration is awful down in Devon so they aren't suited anywhere!! |
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2008, 12:27:47 » |
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Mark III would be useless as it needs something to haul it ; )
Underfloored engines with wide centre doors win every time for this sort of work. 170 variants are by far the most suitable, although to be fair for short distance stop start stuff, electric units win every time.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2008, 15:38:17 » |
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Mark III would be useless as it needs something to haul it ; ) IIRC▸ there were quite a few MKII/III's (?) exported to Ireland and Australia which were destined for conversion for urban use, extra doors etc etc. Loco hauled with a DVT‡The system here just doesn't seem to lend itself to to encouraging this sort innovation, which seems a pity. Too late now as they are all abroad. |
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 22:06:33 » |
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Mark III would be useless as it needs something to haul it ; )
Underfloored engines with wide centre doors win every time for this sort of work. 170 variants are by far the most suitable, although to be fair for short distance stop start stuff, electric units win every time.
This is how it could be done (with HD refreshed Mk3 stock) for commuters http://www.wrexhamandshropshire.co.uk/livery.htmlOr even for longer distances - lots of room in DVT‡ for bikes as well. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2008, 23:23:27 » |
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My vote for "Sprinter" is purely for a 150, which are the best diesel commuter/general purpouse unit! second is a Turbo, which are laid out very similar to a 150, Pacers loose out by not having enough doors.
I gave votes to 150 and 158 as 150 is the best commuter stock and 158's can do commuter stints but still do a long distance service. But as for Turbos. They definatly don't get my vote as they are uncomfortable and in an awful condition. 158's are hopeless for commuter work as the doors are in the wrong place and it takes forever to load/unload, turbos and 150's are ideal with doors at 1/3 intervals as people can filter in/out better, commuter trains aren't really meant to be comfortable, they are for moving large numbers of people! in spain and some other european countries commuter trains have plastic seats...... but wait, everywhere else in europe has better trains than us don't they.....? |
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