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Question: Which types of stock do you think are best for long distance travel in the UK (United Kingdom)? Is it:
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« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2008, 22:14:37 »

The grayrigg pendolino was written off! as for ufton nervet, a few of the TSO (The Stationary Office (now OPSI))'s were re used I believe??
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« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2008, 22:21:18 »

Coaches A-D were rebuilt/conditioned, temporarily stored at Minehead and then entered service

Ironically some of the coaches involved in the Ladbroke Grove tragedy were the ones rebuilt after the Southall accident. Spooky   Undecided
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« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2008, 22:52:47 »

I never really bother checking as I don't care about table seats. Was on an LD from Bath - Bristol the other week though and treated myself to a table in coach A.
Ahh, Coach A.
If we have a LD set on a unbusy HST (High Speed Train) going up that is the place to sit, I reguarly have the whole carriage to myself.
As for not looking, although I don't look for table seats it is hard not to notice if there are 2 tables or 4.
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« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2008, 23:25:50 »

... and treated myself to a table in coach A.

I trust, however, that you did not say a word?

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« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2008, 23:26:55 »

I was quite silent Wink
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« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2008, 23:50:57 »

Good.  It's obvious Jim is the bad influence, then.

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« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2008, 00:18:49 »

But on off peak trains, there is not enough demand for HD sets.

Which services are to be Adelanted? Ie- How much is three diagrams?
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« Reply #52 on: February 29, 2008, 21:42:46 »

No question - Mark 3 unrefurbs or Mark 2s. Comfy seats, tables and decent overhead racks. I have a pilot bag style briefcase which fits nicely into Mark 3 and Mark 2 overhead racks and they have great seats, bags of tables and good views. The Third Rate Mark 3 refurbs are worse than Ryanair plus the pink seat top grab handles resemble a row of Mickey Mouse ears.

Voyagers, Pendolinos and Mark 4s cramp the shoulders because of the profiled sides, plus Voyagers and Pendolinos strink.

Adelantes would be OK if seats no so narrow, better room in overhead rack and no engine growling under floor accompanied by gear changes
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« Reply #53 on: February 29, 2008, 21:46:46 »

No question - Mark 3 unrefurbs or Mark 2s. Comfy seats, tables and decent overhead racks. I have a pilot bag style briefcase which fits nicely into Mark 3 and Mark 2 overhead racks and they have great seats, bags of tables and good views. The Third Rate Mark 3 refurbs are worse than Ryanair plus the pink seat top grab handles resemble a row of Mickey Mouse ears.

Voyagers, Pendolinos and Mark 4s cramp the shoulders because of the profiled sides, plus Voyagers and Pendolinos strink.

Adelantes would be OK if seats no so narrow, better room in overhead rack and no engine growling under floor accompanied by gear changes
Welcome to the forum stebbo and can I say how delighted I am to see someone standing up for Mk2s (Mark 2 coach) as they are good carriages. The New Zealanders also seem to think so as many have made their way down to that part of the world.
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« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2008, 12:42:49 »

I have locked the poll.

Easy winner: the Mark 3.

People prefer the un refurbs.

Wessex Electrics are third.

No-one likes the Meridians!

Thanks for voting.
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« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2008, 12:49:16 »

I'm still fairly surprised Wessex Electric did not score higher: They are better for a number of reasons that the Mk3 Refresh:
-Comfy seats
-Lots of tables
-Plug Doors
-Pleasant environment
-First Class compartments
http://www.therailwaycentre.com/Pages%20EMU/Recognition%20EMU/IllusEMU_442.html
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