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Question: Which types of stock do you think are best for long distance travel in the UK (United Kingdom)? Is it:
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« on: February 21, 2008, 19:05:12 »

Maybe this is a stupid survey. Sad

But I have given 2 votes. Smiley

Maybe it could be interesting. Wink
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 19:07:54 »

My votes went to mark 3 refresh and pendolino

I have no idea what mark 2 or mark 4 is

I based my choice on those with the most space and easiest access to power sockets
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 22:04:17 »

No votes for the poor 180!  Sad

Also- no votes for the Meridians- the evil clones of the Virgin Voyagers!

Was the HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) refurb a mistake?
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 22:14:57 »

No votes for the poor 180!  Sad

Also- no votes for the Meridians- the evil clones of the Virgin Voyagers!

Was the HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) refurb a mistake?

No!

They have power sockets!
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 23:07:13 »

180's get not many votes, because a Wessex Electric/MK3 unrefresh is/were better!
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 23:56:05 »

To be honest, for me in the end a train is a train, as long as it gets me to where I want to go I'm happy.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2008, 00:00:46 »

158 for me, with second being refreshed HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)).
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2008, 07:56:33 »

158 for me, with second being refreshed HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)).
Although I love 158's and they are the best for Medium Long Distance, for 12 hours they would be useless. I voted for MK3's refresh and non-refresh as they are simply the best long distance stock.
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2008, 09:46:09 »

Mk3 unrefurb as the seats are so comfortable. Same applies to the Wessex electrics.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2008, 11:31:03 »

MK3 unrefurbed definately for long distance,open views,tables and correct lighting levels,everthing the refurbed Mk3s are not(ok for commuters though).
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2008, 11:48:12 »

The refurbished mk3's are appalling and no longer suitable for long distance journeys. They are claustrophobic cramped and uncomfortable and just short distance commuter stock. It is not only the seats but the internal layout that is awful. I just could not believe what they had done to the marvelous Mk 3s when I first went on one at PNZ and nor could fellow passengers. The previous layout was brilliant for long distance. Sadly after being a life long pro rail supporter I now fly from Newquay to avoid these appalling vehicles. I will never forgive First for this. If we really have to have these ludicrous high back seats then we need more tables and open space, I have never felt trapped in a train before, I just want to get out.

150/153  refurbishment seems quite good though.

I would have voted for the SWT (South West Trains) 158/159 if they had been on the list as my second choice. I also give them top marks for the wonderful way they are turned out.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2008, 12:20:03 »

Most passengers actually prefer the refurbed MKIII's from all the compliments I hear from them, and what may suprise a lot of people on this forum is that I very rarely hear complaints about them (from passengers), the main complaint is lack of tables though, BUT I think we may have fun this summer as there is less luggage space!
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2008, 12:21:56 »

Yep - I don't mind them really although much prefer the dim light setting. Only thing they lack is back to back seats so therefore no luggage space and also on HDs - no bins!!
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 12:29:03 »

Alright, which four lunatics voted for Voyagers  ;  )
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2008, 12:41:15 »

Alright, which four lunatics voted for Voyagers  ;  )

probably all sectioned under the mental healh act by now
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