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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2017, 15:26:12 »
Thought you might all be interested in this: Delay Attribution Board document




Edit note: With many thanks for your post, I've simply shortened the length of the link somewhat! CfN.  Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2017, 10:18:59 »
Wow King Canute had nothing on the Delay attribution procedure.
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2017, 11:24:17 »
Quote from: 4064ReadingAbbey on February 15, 2017, 13:26:13
So although windscreens may be 'broken' it would need quite a large stone or rock to 'penetrate' the windscreen.

Or a medium sized tree branch.


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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2017, 11:30:52 »
Seen that picture a number of times, but it still makes me cringe and think of the driver.  Shocked
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2017, 14:43:49 »
Quote from: PhilWakely on February 16, 2017, 11:30:52
Seen that picture a number of times, but it still makes me cringe and think of the driver.  Shocked

Who astonishingly escaped with only minor injuries, I am glad to say.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2017, 12:13:00 »
That night in questions was the worst we've seen the sea state in a long while. The force of the waves isn't the problem. Its what is thrown up in the waves that is.
The windscreens aren't smashed as such, they merely just crack. You need some considerable force or a very large object to break through the glass.
When the weather is bad Network Rail engineers travel across the seawall with each train, and they normally impose a 20mph speed restriction. They have the ability to either close the down main line or shut the line completely if they consider it too unsafe.
The decision to keep running trains is on there heads so they won't take any chances.
The pictures make it look worse than it actually is. You don't really feel anything when you're hit by a wave plus the ballast is glued down.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2017, 13:34:50 »
Quote from: a-driver on February 18, 2017, 12:13:00

The windscreens aren't smashed as such, they merely just crack. You need some considerable force or a very large object to break through the glass.

And in the Lavington incident with the tree it was more a case that the branch penetrated the fibreglass cab surround, pushing the windscreen in.
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2017, 21:47:10 »
Quote from: bignosemac on February 16, 2017, 11:24:17
Quote from: 4064ReadingAbbey on February 15, 2017, 13:26:13
So although windscreens may be 'broken' it would need quite a large stone or rock to 'penetrate' the windscreen.

Or a medium sized tree branch.


http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=7092.0


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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2017, 23:17:34 »
Yes, that's why the signallers should never send an HST▸ (High Speed Train) down a branch line.  Roll Eyes Shocked Grin
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