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« on: January 04, 2017, 18:24:11 »
JourneyCheck is reporting

    16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26
    Facilities on the 16:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26.
    Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5.

Sounds cosy. Perhaps it was a mistake to cascade that Turbo towards Bristol quite so soon?
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 23:23:58 »
To be boringly pedantic, the extra Turbo wouldn't have helped. It's the 'halts' train which calls at some really short platforms (Finstock, Combe, Ascott, Shipton), so you can only replace it with a 2-car Turbo or something with SDO▸ (Selective Door Opening). But yes, it's rammed out of Oxford even as the usual Adelante, so I dread to think what it was like today...
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2017, 08:55:39 »
hmmm, the halts train usually has seats on it when I catch it several times a month, when a 180.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2017, 10:44:57 »
Isn't this down to one of the 180s being given away? Thought I saw something on another thread about it.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 11:11:08 »
Now you mention it - I do think I've seen GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) email advising that this service was one of the losers of a 180, yes
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 11:28:39 »
Oh dear - I'm expecting to be on this one this afternoon.

Watch this space.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 11:32:38 »
THey have only lost the one set, so far, but this does mean one less rotation with a 180
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2017, 12:35:20 »
Quote from: Worcester_Passenger on January 05, 2017, 11:28:39
Oh dear - I'm expecting to be on this one this afternoon.

Should be a 180 today, set 102.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2017, 17:16:05 »
Finished early and caught the 15:22 just in case!
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2017, 21:09:35 »
It was a 180, and yesterday's substitute was definitely an unplanned one.  The 17:18 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-OXF» (Oxford - next trains) was a 5-car Turbo so perhaps that's the one that will change from now on - a 5-car Turbo is preferable to a 180 in many ways on that service.  Depends what has been sacrificed to get those Turbos!
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2017, 21:52:56 »
Presumably there's some saving in the Greenford shuttles mow they don't go to PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)?
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2017, 01:43:47 »
Yes, though just the one 2-car set.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2017, 09:39:40 »
I wish I'd hung around at Paddington last night and caught the 16:22.

How does a 5-car Turbo work at the short platforms? Does everybody for the short platforms have to travel in the front unit?
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2017, 10:03:29 »
It doesn't, does it? I've never seen two Turbos on the Cotswold Line where both are available to passengers. On the morning Worcester/Hereford splitter, the back unit is locked out of use.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2017, 10:23:58 »
The 5car turbo referred to was the 1718 only going to OXF» (Oxford - next trains)
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