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« on: December 25, 2016, 05:55:56 »

Posting on Christmas morning - for those of you who's children have woken you early and are now playing happily with new toys ... or who are on your own over this festive season, and feeling travel withdrawal. A dozen pictures - not easy ones - for you to play the "can I identify this" game.



The background story ... Sorting through some very old papers the other day, I came across some old prints from my youth - brought up on the Southern Region in an outer London suburb as it was then, with rail travel to holiday locations around the UK (United Kingdom).

1963 to 1971 saw me community by train to school - firstly to Sydenham Hill and then to Sevenoaks, and 1972 to 1976 saw me commuting to University and to Sandwich Course workplaces - I became very familiar with Holborn Viaduct and Charing Cross Stations, and continued my acquaintance with Sevenoaks. A move away to take up a work role slashed my rail travel to virtually zero, then snuffed it out totally when I move to the South West and became dependent on a car, living in a small village some 9 impractical miles from a station with occasional trains that didn't go where I wanted, and onto which I couldn't carry my heavy tools of trade.  A move to Melksham in 1999 had nothing to do with rail - it had to do with moving to a building with room to run our own training courses, and shifting away from the home I had lived in with my first wife and to which my second wife had arrived when she moved to the UK.

Melksham's rail service in those days was poor - a morning commuter train to Swindon and an eveing service back being about the total.  But come May 2001, Wessex trains started running some extras up and down using spare stock and gaps in diagrams ... our business grew, and I "came back" to life on which rail had a major influence as more and more of our customers arrived in Melksham by train. The story of a new franchisee in 2005, with a mandate to reduce amout of stock they ran, is the next phase of the story.

Why am I telling you this? To help give you some clues as to where the following pictures might have been taken.   There's a dozen here, mostly scanned from prints and so of faded / poor quality and all taken by me.   Many show scenes that will be now have changed out of all recognition. Can you place any?   As a reward for reading all through this blurb, not the usual rules - please feel free as a Christmas bonus to guess or identify up to two each!  Should a guess be marked incorrect, you're then welcome to try another.

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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 07:47:12 »

F. RH&DR ?
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2016, 07:54:44 »

F. RH&DR ?

Many thanks for starting the ball rolling, but alas not the Romney Hythe and Dymchurch Railway.  Aren't we a very informed group that we can recognise talk of an (arguably) obscure Kentish Railway from just the initials? 

Happy Christmas!
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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2016, 07:58:24 »

a. Sittingbourne & Kemsley light railway
c. Connell Ferry
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2016, 08:41:38 »

a. Sittingbourne & Kemsley light railway
c. Connell Ferry

Both correct ... the Sittingbourne and Kemsley was an industrial narrow gauge railway running from the Bowaters paper mill in Sittingbourne to their port at Kemsley, carried above the industrial area of Sittingbourne above the works.   Not been there for many years, but I understand that the railway alone is a survivor of that era, and the area is radically different otherwise.    Somewhere to revisit in 2017?

The bridge at Connel Ferry was built as a railway bridge over the Falls of Lorna to take a branch off the Callender and Oban Railway (later Caledonian then LMS (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948)) north to Appin and Ballachuish.  As there was no easy road crossing, the ralway was used from early days for cars too - on trains (an early motor ail) then with the railway track laid into a road surface so that cars could cross when there were no trains about.   Alas, after the mid 1960s there were no trains any longer, but cars use the bridge to this day.
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2016, 08:42:14 »

Im guessing K wasn't taken 'in your youth'. Heathrow?

i = Willesden Green?
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2016, 08:50:58 »

All together now -

E = Taunton!
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2016, 08:58:04 »

Im guessing K wasn't taken 'in your youth'. Heathrow?

Well spotted - yes. I was very careful to say they were all pictures I had taken without giving any dates ... that was on 14th December this year at 08:20.

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i = Willesden Green?

And yes - that is a much older one.  The final (demonstration) run of steam on the London Undergroud, with a pannier tank of remarkably GWR (Great Western Railway) (old GWR) appearance pulling an engineer's train from Moorgate out to Neasden. Although I'm sad at any 'final' workings, those in which older stuff is replaced by more modern / different / appropriate things are merely sad.  Those which represent the withdrawal of a facility without adequate alternative are a catastrophe for those who are customers.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2016, 08:58:49 »

All together now -

E = Taunton!

Surely not. ... oh ... yes, it is  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2016, 09:30:20 »

Merry xmas everybody Cheesy

D = Dartford (and I think its one of those 'Double Decker' trains)
L = Aberystwyth
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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2016, 09:36:58 »

j = Dduallt, Ffestiniog Railway when still the temporary terminus.

Merry Xmas all!

PS. You weren't a Deviationist were you Grahame? Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2016, 09:38:10 »

f is the Welshpool and Llanfair possibly Castle Caereinion
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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2016, 09:42:09 »

Merry xmas everybody Cheesy

D = Dartford
L = Aberystwyth

Merry Christmas ... yes, it's Dartford (and what's the train in the picture?) ... but that's not Aberystwth.  

Picture L was scanned from an old print and I'll admit it was one that I could not identify;  zooming in, I found that the place name was actually in the picture (sorry, I've gimp-ed that out before posting) so I do now know where it is.   What struck me was the huge forecourt that was totally underutilised ... which probably dates the picture back to the days when rail was at a low and lots had just been shut down, but doesn't help you with getting the location.
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2016, 09:51:43 »

Merry xmas everybody Cheesy

D = Dartford
L = Aberystwyth

Merry Christmas ... yes, it's Dartford (and what's the train in the picture?)

Thought I said it was a double decker train.......

...and I have suddenly realised where L now is..... Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2016, 09:55:14 »

Just out of interest the Willesden Green photograph must have been taken between 1960 and 1970 as there is an A Stock train in the background and the engineering train is led by one of the LT Pannier Tank engines.
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