Economy Klaus - "Why Dont Rail Staff Give Up Their Seats When Asked?"

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Grand Central aren't ATOC^» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here) members though...

I believe they simply get revenue from ORCATS^▸ (Operational Research Computerised Allocation of Tickets to Services) and have nothing else to do with ATOC.

[Ollie]

That's what I mean, GC^» (Great Central Railway - link to heritage line) don't pay the contributions to ATOC^» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here).

It was merely a statement to show that it is not ALL TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company)'s as stated in earlier post.

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It's the same reason why railcards are not accepted on GC^» (Great Central Railway - link to heritage line) priced tickets!

- although of course you can get railcard discount on any other ticket that allows Grand Central travel, including priv.

[Lee]

Here is a related Third Rate Western blog post link.
http://thirdratewestern.blogspot.com/2008/02/give-up-your-seats.html

[admf2]

As far as I know the problems with priv stretch even further than this.  I know that with the TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company) that I work for (no names), we dont get priv on first ScotRail (because they dont want to play).  I think this must be the same with all tocs.  Also our TOC has done away with our friends and family tickets altogether pending review.  And the 75% off the SOR often makes it cheaper to either use a railcard or AP fare.  Then ya dont get it on Grand Central either, and I am doubtful that priv will be available on wrexham and shropshire either!

I dont know what the entitlements are for Safeguarded staff as I am non-safeguarded.  Presumably they still have their entitlement to scotrail, along with TFL^▸ (Transport for London) etc.

JT

You get free travel with the TOC you work for, and with First you get 12 journeys per year on other First TOC's such as Scotrail, TPE^▸ (Trans Pennine Express), FCC^▸ (First Capital Connect) and Hull trains, and ^5 family and friends tickets that you can take people with you on First services for ^5, which is more than most TOC's give, also every employee of any TOC gets a "Priv" card which gives 75% discount on standard open fares, this also applies to some preserved railways who are members of ATOC^» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here) where any paid staff get a Priv card.

Except Grand Central

[Lee]

Welcome to the forum, admf2.