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« on: November 10, 2016, 18:30:40 »

A former rail transport trackbed:



Where, and the name of the former rail operation?
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2016, 18:36:12 »

I verry much doubt that's anywhere near Taunton .
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2016, 18:38:40 »

Newquay, the line down to harbour.. maybe
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2016, 18:39:57 »

Newquay, the line down to harbour...


Crikey, that was quick!

Now, name of the operation than ran on this line?
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2016, 18:43:00 »

Trains..... Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2016, 18:46:51 »

Actually I think it's called the old tramway, although trams never went there. The line went along the path shown then through where the bus station is now (Manor Road), then down through a tunnel to the harbour purely for freight purposes.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2016, 19:19:02 »

The former routing is clear on google earth, follow from the station, curves around this path to manor road. The routing becomes less clear at the end of Manor Rd near to Sainsburys.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2016, 19:23:27 »

It was called the 'Newquay Railway' and was built by Treffry as part of his planned cross-Cornwall rail network.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2016, 19:52:21 »

The former routing is clear on google earth, follow from the station, curves around this path to manor road. The routing becomes less clear at the end of Manor Rd near to Sainsburys.

The top entrance to the tunnel downto the harbour is some where under Sainsburys car park.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2016, 20:02:27 »

The former routing is clear on google earth, follow from the station, curves around this path to manor road. The routing becomes less clear at the end of Manor Rd near to Sainsburys.

The top entrance to the tunnel downto the harbour is some where under Sainsburys car park.

That'll be why it disappears!
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2016, 22:31:07 »

It was called the 'Newquay Railway' and was built by Treffry as part of his planned cross-Cornwall rail network.

Yes. Part of Joseph Treffry's freight tramway network in this part of Cornwall. Built to move various materials - non-ferrous metals, china clay, granite - mined in the Luxulyan Valley and on Goss Moor, to harbours on both the Atlantic and English Channel coasts. These tramways were worked initially by horses and gravity inclines.

In the 1870s, when the tramways were taken over by Cornwall Mineral Railways, the permanent way was improved and locomotives were introduced across the network. Stationary steam engines were used on the inclines or they were bypassed by easier graded, but sinuous, new alignments. Passenger services began operating in 1876.

Cornwall Mineral Railways were taken over by the Great Western Railway in 1896. Much of the current passenger line from Par to Newquay is on alignments originally built by Joseph Treffry in the early/mid 19th century.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treffry_Tramways
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2016, 22:44:40 »

Actually I think it's called the old tramway, although trams never went there. The line went along the path shown then through where the bus station is now (Manor Road), then down through a tunnel to the harbour purely for freight purposes.

Yes. These were industrial 'tramways' and had nothing to do with what we would today regard as passenger trams.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2016, 22:57:49 »

The tunnel was short - really just under Fore Street and down to the quay. The rest of the railway stuff (presumably a winding engine house and some freight handling - if only coal for the engine) was where Sainsbury's shop is.

All of which is to be seen on the 1906 OS (Ordnance Survey) 6" map, available from NLS. I can attach the relevant bit as a PDF (by permission of the National Library of Scotland, for non-commercial use); I've never tried that so I I'll just have to try it and see. Or else try this link - http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=50.4155&lon=-5.0857&layers=171&b=1.
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2016, 00:05:53 »

Thanks, stuving - that link works for me.  Wink

But why 'The National Library of Scotland', for a map of somewhere so clearly outside their area?  Even before any independence!?  Shocked

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2016, 00:16:48 »

It seems to be that NLS has stolen a march on others in digitising old, out of copyright, UK (United Kingdom) maps. Others have done so, but not as comprehensively or as user friendly.

NLS has quickly established itself as the go to place online for historic UK mapping. It easily beats the limited free content from Ordnance Survey.

I think they've done what they've done because they can. That they are Scottish based is largely irrelevant.

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