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« on: September 10, 2016, 14:19:27 » |
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(Previous prices in brackets) Travel within 1 zone £7.50 (£5) Two zones £15 (£10) Three zones £20 (£15) Four/Five zones £25 (£20) Zone map for reference https://www.gwr.com/~/media/gwr/pdfs/maps/weekend-first-pdf-060916.pdf?la=enWhilst I think the one zone and four/five zones are good value, the two and three zone prices are now a bit steep for journeys of around an hour, hour and a half. But we knew that this would happen since the reduction in First class accommodation. As the saying goes, supply and demand with First being very busy at weekends. Best advice, if you can, book well in advance if you want the cheapest way to travel First class on weekends. |
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ChrisB
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2016, 19:34:04 » |
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I'd like to see a price break between 4 & 5 zones...otherwise why have 5 zones in the first place?
It penalises up services frankly...while down services can get TAU» -PNZ For the price of one 4/5 zone increment of £5, up services only get Swindon/pewsey for the extra non-paid zone.
I also object to the second zone from London...its extremely small
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grahame
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2016, 19:40:44 » |
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I'd like to see a price break between 4 & 5 zones...otherwise why have 5 zones in the first place?
So that you have some differences on shorter journeys. i.e. So you don't have a massive single zone at one end at £7.50 |
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LiskeardRich
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2016, 19:45:17 » |
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Some 2 zone, Plymouth to Newquay as an example is cheaper to buy a first off peak day return, so my advise is check the off peak first price before buying.
Plymouth - Newquay is good value for time taken considering how slow HSTs▸ are on the branch!
Off peak day return £10.00 , 1st Off Peak day return £19.20
I probably had close to my £9.20 in snacks and drinks across the 2 legs!
I should add on a XC▸ weekend first the uplift is only £5 compared to GWR▸ £15.
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Timmer
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2016, 21:19:48 » |
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I also object to the second zone from London...its extremely small
Tell me about it. Travelling to/from Bath or Westbury - London, these two stations are right next to zone 2 in zone 3 where it has gone up to £20 for an hour and a half journey. I struggled to justify paying £15. £20 each way for the length of journey is too steep for me now. They were always going to put Bath into zone 3 because of the amount of traffic to/from London. As I said GWR▸ can charge these Weekend First prices because there aren't so many seats to fill now. |
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ChrisB
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2016, 21:35:36 » |
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Zone 2 is too close to London...£20 for an hour to Swindon? Not me....
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Timmer
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2016, 21:39:33 » |
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Zone 2 is too close to London...£20 for an hour to Swindon? Not me....
I can soften the blow a little for you Chris, £15 to Zone 2 up from the previous £10. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2016, 21:53:58 » |
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Zone 2 is too close to London...£20 for an hour to Swindon? Not me....
I can soften the blow a little for you Chris, £15 to Zone 2 up from the previous £10. I'll soften the blow a bit more Chris. Come to Swindon and I'll buy you a pint!  |
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2016, 11:30:45 » |
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There won't be many that will take up the offer of Weekend First between Didcot and Swindon for £15. Not there there were at £10 though either.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2016, 16:13:53 » |
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From my experience, Weekend First on the Penzance/Plymouth - Paddington route on a Sunday afternoon should be stopped altogether or severely restricted AND limited to advance booking. With the much reduced First class accommodation, more than once I have seen (especially) families with young children plonk themselves down at a table and pay their £15/£20, only for people holding full 1st class tickets being unable to use them as much OF the 1st class accommodation is taken by those paying a (relatively) small premium for WF.
The trains are simply too busy and overcrowded to cope with it and this represents extremely poor service for those who have paid the often astronomically priced 1st class fares-the sort of customers who one would imagine GWR▸ would be keen to retain and keep happy.
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Timmer
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2016, 20:10:06 » |
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I guess that's why GWR▸ have increased the price of Weekend First TG because of the issues you describe on their long distance services. There were times on SW services when it could get cosy with two and a half coaches, even worse with just one and a half.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2016, 21:51:49 » |
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I agree 100% with TaplowGreen that subsidised tickets should not be offered on overcrowded services where others have paid an astronomically priced full fare.
Perhaps, after Weekend First is removed, we can do the same to season tickets?
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ChrisB
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2016, 22:25:22 » |
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Agreed, no off-peaks in the peak to ensure all season holders get a seat!
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Timmer
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2016, 08:02:19 » |
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GWR▸ have now started providing a customer host and trolley service on weekends with the same range of complimentaries usually found on weekdays making the new Weekend First prices slightly more palatable.
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ChrisB
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2016, 15:28:01 » |
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That commenced several weeks/month-and-a-bit ago?
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