Referendum - result of vote, and implications for transport in the UK

[whole diary]

[grahame]

All over bar the shouting? Or just starting? Storm in a teacup or cataclysmic change?  What is the result of yesterday's referendum going to mean for public and sustainable transport in the UK^▸ (United Kingdom)?

[rower40]

What TSIs (technical standards for inter-operability) can now be ignored in design and build of rolling stock and infrastructure? Discuss.

[Electric train]

What TSIs (technical standards for inter-operability) can now be ignored in design and build of rolling stock and infrastructure? Discuss.

It cannot be ignored because it is enshrined in UK^▸ (United Kingdom) Law, given the scale of stuff that need to be unpicked things like TIS^‡(resolve) will one of the things at the end of the list

[LiskeardRich]

Cost of buying vehicles and stock from overseas will go up. How much is built in the UK^▸ (United Kingdom)?

[plymothian]

There isn't one.  Its a Train Staff usually kept in a locked draw when not in use.

Good old Cornwall.  Someone drag it into the 21st century (or even the 20th...)   

Well hopefully it won't be too long as the tender for the first stage of Cornwall and Plymouth resignalling is due out soon

Last time a Train Staff got lost in Cornwall it ended up being found in a loco cab at Crewe

Possibly not following last night's ellectorate decision.

[plymothian]

EU^» (European Union - about) funding for projects...?

[ellendune]

As I understand it EU^» (European Union - about) law can only be enforced against governments.  Therefore any EU laws that apply to anyone else are enshrined in UK^▸ (United Kingdom) law somehow.  Many but by no means all are implemented in UK law through Regulations under the European Communities Act.  Revoking all those Regulations en block is not feasible it would leave many areas unregulated that we would still want to regulate.  So they do have to be sorted through carefully.  And that will take time. 

TSi about interoperability and therefore about trade. So these will depend on what trade deal is negotiated.  Also if we ant to buy off-the-self kit rather than spend more money on kit just designed for the UK it will more than likely comply with TSis because that is what most of the market in Europe wants and that is what manufacturers will make. 

[The Tall Controller]

13 weekday services between Paignton and Newton Abbot/Exeter St Davids are funded by the EU^» (European Union - about).

[ray951]

If is difficult to say but in the short term but I would expect there to be a recession (there will certainly be a downturn) as nobody will want to invest (especially from outside the UK^▸ (United Kingdom)) until we have some clarity about what the relationship between the EU^» (European Union - about) and UK is and that is never good for the economy.

The government should increase infrastructure spending in a recession (to reduce the impact) but going on past experience will probably cut it, so I can see HS2^▸ (The next High Speed line(s)) being scrapped/stalled and at best the projects currently started will continue but no new projects will start.

Longer term I guess it all depends on whether politics in the UK (or just England and Wales) turns right or left as being in the middle no longer works.

Would be interesting to know how currency fluctuations are going to be handled, in for example, the IEP^▸ (Intercity Express Program / Project.) contract and other purchases from abroad given the large fall in the £ today, although of course this may be a short term issue.

Going off topic, will this mean the end for Hinkley Point?

[Rhydgaled]

Euston-Glasgow services to terminate at Carlisle and Kings Cross - Edinburgh at Berwick for passport checks?

Great Britain, inside the EU^» (European Union - about) or out of it, I felt I could live with, but Scotland leaving England and Wales is unthinkable to me. Keep Britain Great.

[LiskeardRich]

Assumingly not a long term impact but this mornings main commuter train into Truro I've never seen so quiet. Coach F consisted of me, and 6 college students for Truro college. I assume unusually low numbers were connected to the vote.

[paul7575]

What TSIs (technical standards for inter-operability) can now be ignored in design and build of rolling stock and infrastructure? Discuss.

A recent Modern Railways article reckoned that most of it was invented here, and there'd be no regulations to 'go back to'.

Paul

[Tim]

Cost of buying vehicles and stock from overseas will go up. How much is built in the UK^▸ (United Kingdom)?

Hitachi must be pleased though.  Their trains are either built in the UK or Japan.  Presumably a UK out of the EU^» (European Union - about) could drop the tariff wall to imported trains from Japan (I don't think the WTO would allow it to raise it).

The main impact on the railways will be the cost of borrowing in a more uncertain business environment.  Very significant when you consider how much debt their is in the industry

[Steve Bray]

Didn't we switch the timetable change to December from late September/early October in order to harmonise with other European rail networks?

[Electric train]

Cost of buying vehicles and stock from overseas will go up. How much is built in the UK^▸ (United Kingdom)?

Hitachi must be pleased though.  Their trains are either built in the UK or Japan.  Presumably a UK out of the EU^» (European Union - about) could drop the tariff wall to imported trains from Japan (I don't think the WTO would allow it to raise it).

The main impact on the railways will be the cost of borrowing in a more uncertain business environment.  Very significant when you consider how much debt their is in the industry

Hitachi have rail factory in Italy http://italy.hitachirail.com/en so they can easily move any EU build there, the facility was built in 6 months ..................... and the UK factory errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr