Network Rail National Control Strategy in Tatters

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[SandTEngineer]

Thought you might find this interesting as it potentially seems a complete turn around. Am I suprised, not: http://forum.signalbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7539

[broadgage]

Link seems to go to "the page does not exist" or some such.

[SandTEngineer]

Yes.  Since I posted the link the thread has been deleted by the moderators on the site linked to as it was felt that the subject matter was not appropriate to that forum.

[ChrisB]

Dates for the Wales ROC^▸ (Rail Operating Centre - a centralised location for railway signalling and train control operations for a specific route or region) are still in place & have only recently been updated (read:delayed)

[Electric train]

The National SCADA^▸ (System Control And Data Acquisition,) project has got some further delays a number of ECR's destined to be re-controlled to various ROCs^▸ (Rail Operating Centre - a centralised location for railway signalling and train control operations for a specific route or region) has slipped.

SCADA - System Control and Data Acquisition, this is the "generic" term used for the telemetry control from the ECR - Electrical Control Room 

[Billhere]

The National SCADA^▸ (System Control And Data Acquisition,) project has got some further delays a number of ECR's destined to be re-controlled to various ROCs^▸ (Rail Operating Centre - a centralised location for railway signalling and train control operations for a specific route or region) has slipped.

Fourteen years in some places in Lincolnshire. A number of boxes should have closed in June and they were told just a couple of weeks ago it will now be 2029 earliest.

In the North East a relocation along the coast line from Sunderland has been adjourned a dozen or so times now, the latest date in September is now doubtful according to staff there.

Not much consideration for their staff who are being told almost at the last minute its all off.

In this area Colthrop, Kintbury (both of which should have closed five years ago) and Westbury Panel are being moved administratively to the West of England area, and Oxford Panel going into the Cotswolds area. Won't mean anything operationally but shifting things away from the TVSC^» (Thames Valley Signalling Centre - about).

Whether it will delay further a move to Didcot is unknown at the moment.

[Chris from Nailsea]

The National SCADA^▸ (System Control And Data Acquisition,) project has got some further delays a number of ECR's destined to be re-controlled to various ROCs^▸ (Rail Operating Centre - a centralised location for railway signalling and train control operations for a specific route or region) has slipped.

SCADA - System Control and Data Acquisition, this is the "generic" term used for the telemetry control from the ECR - Electrical Control Room 

This should not be confused with SNAFU^▸ (Situation Normal: All Fouled Up (I have toned down the F word)) - Situation Normal: All Fouled Up, which also seems to be the 'generic' term used for the telemetry control from the ECR ... 



Both terms are included in the Coffee Shop forum's 'acronyms / abbreviations' page. 

[Electric train]

The National SCADA^▸ (System Control And Data Acquisition,) project has got some further delays a number of ECR's destined to be re-controlled to various ROCs^▸ (Rail Operating Centre - a centralised location for railway signalling and train control operations for a specific route or region) has slipped.

Fourteen years in some places in Lincolnshire. A number of boxes should have closed in June and they were told just a couple of weeks ago it will now be 2029 earliest.

In the North East a relocation along the coast line from Sunderland has been adjourned a dozen or so times now, the latest date in September is now doubtful according to staff there.

Not much consideration for their staff who are being told almost at the last minute its all off.

In this area Colthrop, Kintbury (both of which should have closed five years ago) and Westbury Panel are being moved administratively to the West of England area, and Oxford Panel going into the Cotswolds area. Won't mean anything operationally but shifting things away from the TVSC^» (Thames Valley Signalling Centre - about).

Whether it will delay further a move to Didcot is unknown at the moment.

Electrification SCADA (also known as Supervisory or Supie) should not be confused with signalling.  SCADA is about traction power control, it can very effectively stop all trains over a very wide area even non electric trains in an electrified area.

The SCADA for the 3 HEX 25kV locations is currently at ............................ Romford!!!! will be moving to Didcot at some stage.   ECR's controlling a very wide area is nothing new York ECR for instance controls all the traction power on the ECML^▸ (East Coast Main Line) from Moorgate (London) to Shilbottle (Northumberland) and has done so since 2001

[Billhere]

It should have gone to Didcot already, the jobs were advertised and filled some months ago, in fact I thought it had moved already, but obviously not.

[Red Squirrel]

Shilbottle

Always makes me think of Stewart Lee, for some reason. Do the local youth still systematically modify the road signs there nowadays?

[Tim]

Shilbottle

Always makes me think of Stewart Lee, for some reason. Do the local youth still systematically modify the road signs there nowadays?

No they don't, and is that not a tragedy.