Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 21:35 19 Apr 2025
 
- Race Across the World winner on 'authentic travel' and how to do it
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 10/05/25 - BRTA Westbury
10/05/25 - Model Railsay Show, Calne
13/05/25 - Melksham TUG / AGM
14/05/25 - West Wiltshire RUG

On this day
19th Apr (1938)
Foundation, Beatties of London (link)

Train RunningCancelled
20:45 Bristol Temple Meads to Weymouth
21:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Westbury
21:32 Cheltenham Spa to Swindon
22:39 Swindon to Gloucester
Short Run
18:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
Delayed
20:59 Gatwick Airport to Reading
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
April 19, 2025, 21:53:55 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[108] FOSS and FOSW validity - some quirks
[106] St Erth station - facilities, footbridge, improvements, incide...
[81] Fifteen years of the Transwilts CRP
[71] Wiltshire Day Rover - new multi-operator bus ticket
[56] RNLI station celebrates 10 years of saving lives - Portishead,...
[53] Julia Bradbury: ITV tonight
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 2 [3]
  Print  
Author Topic: 'The Tarka Tourer' - HST to Barnstaple, Sunday 17 April 2016  (Read 22225 times)
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 13323


View Profile Email
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2016, 08:16:25 »

One could certainly see why some did think the Green 'Un was scheduled, the wording did suggest it?
Logged
Rhydgaled
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1500


View Profile WWW
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2016, 09:08:43 »

On the other hand HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) includes loads of DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) that are not actually HSTs, including such as Voyagers.
The names given to the differential linespeeds aren't actually particularly meaningful. According to one of the sectional appendix documents I've downloaded from the Network Rail website; as well as IC125s with at least 3 coaches being permitted to run at MU (Multiple Unit) linespeeds, class 185s and 390s aren't allowed to run at MU speeds and Sprinters aren't the only units allowed to run at SP (Sprinter) linespeeds, classes 165, 166, 168, 170, 171 and 172 are also permitted.

As you say, some trains which are not HSTs are permitted to use HST differentials, namely: 158s, 159s, 168s, 170s, 171s, 172s and 175s. Although most pepole on here seem to use 'HST' to mean trains formed of mark 3 coaches with a class 43 at each end, Voyagers (and class 180s) are technically HSTs the definition being that "Rolling stock must have a minimum[clarification needed] speed of at least 200 km/h (124 mph) to be considered high speed". That's why I try to remember to refer to 'trains formed of two class 43s sandwiching mark 3 coaches' as IC125s (INTERCITY 125s), as that unambiguiously refers to that type of train. The IC225s (INTERCITY 225s) on the east coast main line are capable of at least 125mph (the locos at least are still 140mph capable according to their data panels, I keep forgetting to check the coaches) are also HSTs, as are the class 373s on HighSpeed 1 of course.
Logged

----------------------------
Don't DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) it, keep the guard (but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea if the driver unlocked the doors on arrival at calling points).
RobT
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 368


View Profile
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2016, 21:27:32 »

Well thanks a bunch.  The 'special' left a track circuit failure on behind it at Kintbury and my train behind it (and that was supposed to overtake it at Newbury) was delayed by 12 minutes as a consequence Roll Eyes Embarrassed
Hi SandTEngineer, I was on the Tarka (Branch line from Barnstaple to Exeter) Tourer and we were wondering where you got to at Newbury and left before you! Out of interest I was wondering what is a track circuit failure, and how is it rectified?
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 2 [3]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules via admin@railcustomer.info. Full legal statement (here).

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page