National Railcard discounts - ongoing discussion, no longer date specific

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[JayMac]

I don't understand why the 0823 from Exeter St Davids (and 0827 Exeter Central, 0832 Pinhoe, 0836 Cranbrook, 0841 Whimple, 0847 Feniton) have a Network Railcard easement, but not the 0925 (calls at Central, Pinhoe, Cranbrook and Whimple before 1000).

[paul7575]

I don't understand why the 0823 from Exeter St Davids (and 0827 Exeter Central, 0832 Pinhoe, 0836 Cranbrook, 0841 Whimple, 0847 Feniton) have a Network Railcard easement, but not the 0925 (calls at Central, Pinhoe, Cranbrook and Whimple before 1000).

Perhaps no-one updated it when the service first went hourly?   Maybe an an error rather than a conspiracy...

Paul

[PhilWakely]

I don't understand why the 0823 from Exeter St Davids (and 0827 Exeter Central, 0832 Pinhoe, 0836 Cranbrook, 0841 Whimple, 0847 Feniton) have a Network Railcard easement, but not the 0925 (calls at Central, Pinhoe, Cranbrook and Whimple before 1000).

Perhaps no-one updated it when the service first went hourly?   Maybe an an error rather than a conspiracy...

Paul

I remember using my Network Railcard for regular PIN-SAL returns using the 0832 for a few years, but notice that none of the online ticket sellers currently offer it (including swtrains.co.uk) until the 0935

[LiskeardRich]

I don't understand why the 0823 from Exeter St Davids (and 0827 Exeter Central, 0832 Pinhoe, 0836 Cranbrook, 0841 Whimple, 0847 Feniton) have a Network Railcard easement, but not the 0925 (calls at Central, Pinhoe, Cranbrook and Whimple before 1000).

I'm led to believe D&C railcard can also be used on the 0823 from Exeter st davids to Axminster.

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I don't understand why the 0823 from Exeter St Davids (and 0827 Exeter Central, 0832 Pinhoe, 0836 Cranbrook, 0841 Whimple, 0847 Feniton) have a Network Railcard easement, but not the 0925 (calls at Central, Pinhoe, Cranbrook and Whimple before 1000).

I'm led to believe D&C railcard can also be used on the 0823 from Exeter st davids to Axminster.

Bear in mind that there isn't a time restriction on the D&C railcard, it's a case of where there is a valid off peak ticket then the D&C can be used.

[JayMac]

From later this summer it will be possible to get digital versions of National Railcards (and Network Railcards) stored on iOS and Android devices. You order online then store on an app on your device(s). Physical hard copy railcards will remain available.

The option on purchase will be either/or. You won't be able to have both the digital version and a hard copy. You will though be permitted to store your digital railcard on up to two devices. Railcards that don't currently require photographs will require them for the digital version. Digital railcards will be available for new purchases and renewals. You will not be able to convert an existing hard copy railcard.

The rollout begins with the Network and 16-25 Railcards in July. Followed by Family and Two Together in late Summer. Finally Disabled and Senior in early Autumn.

[ChrisB]

No one generally carries two phones, maybe one & a tablet, which one again generally doesn't carry all the time.

This lose your phone & you'll be inconvenienced by having to carry the tablet on journeys until renewal. Personally, hard copy railcard is replaceable for £10, that strikes me as likely more convenient over time, unless loss is nearly at end of validity

[LiskeardRich]

No one generally carries two phones, maybe one & a tablet, which one again generally doesn't carry all the time.

This lose your phone & you'll be inconvenienced by having to carry the tablet on journeys until renewal. Personally, hard copy railcard is replaceable for £10, that strikes me as likely more convenient over time, unless loss is nearly at end of validity

The two devices allow for a mid year change of contract handset for example. My phone contract won't expire at the same time as my railcard.

[ChrisB]

Only if you don't have to diwnload to two devices at time of purchase....

[Surrey 455]

I guess it comes down to convenience. I have in the past downloaded my boarding passes to my easyjet and Norwegian apps but I've gone back to printing them on paper. Its hassle getting my phone out, unlocking it, selecting the app then selecting the boarding pass to show, then having to move your finger on the screen to keep it active until staff are ready to see it. Oh and if you've got two peoples boarding passes, you've then got to swipe to the next pass then pass the phone to the other person so they can get through the barrier. Now I just get my A4 boarding pass out of my bag and put it away when I'm finished.

[JayMac]

Only if you don't have to diwnload to two devices at time of purchase....

The retail brief I've seen says you will be able to download to a maximum of two devices. That suggests it's up to you whether to use one or two.

I suspect the 'two devices' will just mean at any one time. You can download to one device, then a second at another time if you so wish. Then, if you change devices, the app device manager will allow you to delete a device no longer used and add another. It's possible that,  with a 3 year Railcard, you will have more than two devices over that period.

My banking app limits registration to four devices. If I try to register a fifth I have to delete an old one first.

With this Railcard app I strongly suspect you will be able to delete and add and not be limited to two devices registered at time of purchase. In fact the staff retail brief mentions that device management will be maintained online.

[ChrisB]

I certainly would hope thats the way it'll work

[TaplowGreen]

No one generally carries two phones, maybe one & a tablet, which one again generally doesn't carry all the time.

This lose your phone & you'll be inconvenienced by having to carry the tablet on journeys until renewal. Personally, hard copy railcard is replaceable for £10, that strikes me as likely more convenient over time, unless loss is nearly at end of validity

Many people carry two phones - one for work & one personal.

[IndustryInsider]

I carry two when at work.  Regardless though it's nice to have a choice and, like Surrey 455, choose the system you find most convenient.

[JayMac]

Information from another forum suggests a 26-30 Railcard is to be trialled in the Greater Anglia area in 2018. The trial will be limited to certain postcodes, a similar set up to the Two Together Railcard before that became available nationally.

This will also likely be a digital only Railcard.

Rail Delivery Group have already registered a domain.

https://www.whois.com/whois/26-30railcard.co.uk

Also, ATOC^» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here) Limited (trading as Rail Delivery Group) have registered domains suggesting a 55+ plus Railcard may be in the pipeline.

And perhaps most interesting of all is the registration of domains suggesting a Rail Ombudsman may be coming...

http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=Atoc+limited