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« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2008, 18:58:39 » |
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Looks like some idiot decided to trespass near Acton! Presumably you then followed a unit from Bath - Bristol too. It all depends on the driving I find!
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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2008, 13:44:07 » |
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I can't see how removing the buffet can help reduce journey times.  Yes it is lighter, but does it really make that much difference? As for a trolley.........!  Why not remove a first class coach? |
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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2008, 14:58:22 » |
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Here is a relevant quote from the Network Rail Business Plan 2007 : On the Paddington to Bristol and Paddington to Oxford routes High Speed Train sets will be reduced in formation by the removal of the buffet coach. This reduction in train weight will improve performance. However, seating reconfiguration will provide additional seating capacity. |
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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2008, 18:58:48 » |
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Here is a relevant quote from the Network Rail Business Plan 2007 : On the Paddington to Bristol and Paddington to Oxford routes High Speed Train sets will be reduced in formation by the removal of the buffet coach. This reduction in train weight will improve performance. However, seating reconfiguration will provide additional seating capacity. I'm still not convinced. And also, as the Buffet car has no standard seating, what do they mean by "seating reconfiguration will provide additional seating capacity?" I take it that they won't remove tables in First Class! |
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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2008, 19:02:06 » |
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2+7 HST▸ 's do seem to keep time better, worked one again the other day (coach B missing, not a high density set!!) and we were early everywhere! they could just build a smaller buffet area in a TSO▸ and have an extra standard coach!
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John R
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2008, 19:09:04 » |
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A bit like the micro buffets they retrofitted into some Mk 2s 20 years or so ago? Sounds like a good idea, though I'm not sure I would want to work in one all day.
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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2008, 19:14:53 » |
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they could just build a smaller buffet area in a TSO▸ and have an extra standard coach!
I can see the next step now... run it in a 1+1+6 formation, call the mini-buffet a "Refresca Cafe Bar" and rebadge them as "Mark II Adelantes"  |
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« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2008, 20:05:25 » |
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they could just build a smaller buffet area in a TSO▸ and have an extra standard coach!
"Refresca Cafe Bar"  |
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« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2008, 22:21:11 » |
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they could just build a smaller buffet area in a TSO▸ and have an extra standard coach!
I can see the next step now... run it in a 1+1+6 formation, call the mini-buffet a "Refresca Cafe Bar" and rebadge them as "Mark II Adelantes" And then give first a discount as they become rammed and dont have the same service or supply (do you know how often there is no white wine left by oxford on the 1722/1822) I dont like the way thi is heading |
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2008, 17:00:53 » |
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they could just build a smaller buffet area in a TSO▸ and have an extra standard coach!
I can see the next step now... run it in a 1+1+6 formation, call the mini-buffet a "Refresca Cafe Bar" and rebadge them as "Mark II Adelantes" And then give first a discount as they become rammed and dont have the same service or supply (do you know how often there is no white wine left by oxford on the 1722/1822) I dont like the way thi is heading Take your own wine?  |
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« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2008, 03:33:42 » |
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Was told today that the trials are now suspended UFN‡.
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« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2008, 07:29:26 » |
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Confirms what a TM‡ told me yesterday.
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« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2008, 14:16:33 » |
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I seem to remember reading in the railway press that a 2 + 7 HST▸ [without a buffet] would be able to save 7 minutes on the Bristol to Paddington run. This saving was not going to be used for reduced journey time but to aid timekeeping.
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« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2008, 16:47:30 » |
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They could save 3/4 mins if they ran at linespeed between Reading and Swindon  |
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John R
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« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2008, 17:52:24 » |
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What speed do they run at? 110?
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