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« Reply #135 on: February 22, 2008, 20:43:51 » |
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« Reply #136 on: February 22, 2008, 20:59:14 » |
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Yeah, I saw that pic, but wondered if you had any views of other parts of the train, like the end panelling etc? And info on if the Lighting has been improved?
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« Reply #137 on: February 22, 2008, 21:04:38 » |
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Lighting hasn't been touched.
The 142s never actually had a green panel at the cab, either orange or purple/blue when refurbished by FNW.
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« Reply #138 on: February 22, 2008, 21:39:59 » |
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I wish ATW▸ would do something about the nasty dark green panelling on their paces, as it simply makes the units seem so so dark!!
Were those purple wall panels under the windows, as shown on the above pic part of the FGW▸ refurb, or where those already in place? IM surprised that they haven't resprayed the window frames in purple too, as on other refurbed units!
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« Reply #139 on: February 22, 2008, 21:40:18 » |
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 Devon metro- it does work both ways except for one thing- Valley lines can ONLY have C1▸ restriction stock, not C3- that is why there are greater limitations on the stock that can be cascaded. So 153s are no good, especially considering our metro style dwell / turnaround times. Obviously, FGW▸ need more 158 (or equivalents) with 150 (or equivalent) on the branches and the 142s turned into garden sheds (I'd have one)! Daniel
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« Reply #140 on: February 22, 2008, 21:43:30 » |
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I wish ATW▸ would do something about the nasty dark green panelling on their paces, as it simply makes the units seem so so dark!!
Were those purple wall panels under the windows, as shown on the above pic part of the FGW▸ refurb, or where those already in place? IM surprised that they haven't resprayed the window frames in purple too, as on other refurbed units!
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« Reply #141 on: February 22, 2008, 21:53:19 » |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0G2BK04vsw&feature=relatedThe internal pics shown on this video clip look quote nice, if thats the full FGW▸ refurb on the 142s?? If only ATW▸ could come up with something similar, they would at least feel a bit better. I have to say, The bus seats on those pacers don't look so bad. The tall seats on the ATW pacers make them feel all claustrophobic . Ok that Refurb doesn't make them into new style trains, but does at least make them look more acceptable to me. Whats others think?
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« Reply #142 on: February 22, 2008, 22:01:24 » |
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I prefer the unrefurbs - back seat moulds around your back, refurbs have more padding. Main thing I miss from 150/153/158s is ARMRESTS!
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« Reply #143 on: February 22, 2008, 22:14:04 » |
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How come these weren't fitted?
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« Reply #144 on: February 22, 2008, 22:14:56 » |
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How come these weren't fitted?
They are the same seats. Armrests would only be available with totally new seats. |
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« Reply #145 on: February 22, 2008, 23:19:10 » |
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One interesting fact, refurbed 14x units were not fitted with drop down tables because if someone puts a hot drink on one then the risk of it being shook onto their laps is too high! likewise if a trolley is ever on a 14x unit they are not allowed to sell you a hot drink!
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« Reply #146 on: February 22, 2008, 23:25:11 » |
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A trolley on a 142!!! Has this ever been seen?!?!
On the subject, why were so many pacers made, if they had such problems?!?!
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« Reply #147 on: February 22, 2008, 23:30:33 » |
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A trolley on a 142!!! Has this ever been seen?!?!
On the subject, why were so many pacers made, if they had such problems?!?!
I've seen them on 143's before, everyone says what a disaster 14x units were, but they can hardly be called unsuccessful, over 20 years in service so far, thats a lot longer than many classes of 1st gen DMU▸ 's and early diesel loco's! |
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« Reply #148 on: February 22, 2008, 23:36:37 » |
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Blimey, what TOC▸ provided a trolley service on a 143?!?!
This is true about them being unsucessful, but i think the trouble is, they just seem to go on and on and on, without giving up!!
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« Reply #149 on: February 23, 2008, 00:26:32 » |
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Blimey, what TOC▸ provided a trolley service on a 143?!?!
This is true about them being unsucessful, but i think the trouble is, they just seem to go on and on and on, without giving up!!
in Wessex days when a 143 was covering a 150 or something. |
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