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« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2008, 10:32:51 »

Regarding the 3 180s for the Cotswold line, are these for a scheduled services or as a backup for broken or just in the wrong place  HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)), if so does anyone know which diagram?

I ask because the 0837 Worcester FS to Paddington is still an Adelante when we were promised all HSTs, this train is nearly always chronically overcrowded (standing only before Oxford) and it is the first train where CDR (Off Peak Day Return [ticket type] (formerly 'Cheap Day')) tickets are valid.

Any confirmed news on the 180s?

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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2008, 15:36:34 »

Regarding the 3 180s for the Cotswold line, are these for a scheduled services or as a backup for broken or just in the wrong place  HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)), if so does anyone know which diagram?

I ask because the 0837 Worcester FS to Paddington is still an Adelante when we were promised all HSTs, this train is nearly always chronically overcrowded (standing only before Oxford) and it is the first train where CDR (Off Peak Day Return [ticket type] (formerly 'Cheap Day')) tickets are valid.

Any confirmed news on the 180s?



I belive that diagram is booked to last until Friday, so make the most of it!
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2008, 17:00:20 »

Make the most of a full and standing train??  Huh

I don't think the 180s are special enough to warrant full and standing 'bashes'  Wink
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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2008, 18:52:21 »

Make the most of a full and standing train??  Huh

I don't think the 180s are special enough to warrant full and standing 'bashes'  Wink

Not all the services it does a day are!
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2008, 18:52:38 »

A couple of weeks ago the 0744 Chippenham was rumoured to become an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) but I still see an Adelante at TM (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context) each morning waiting to form the 0900, so it doesn't seem to have happened yet?
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2008, 22:55:37 »

Today's overcrowding on the 08.37 from Worcester was because it is half-term for schools in Worcestershire. And a friend who normally rides in the front coach eventually turned up in the quiet coach at the back as we were heading towards Kingham and said coach E was occupied by a massed group of Cub Scouts, which probably made matters even worse than a usual half-term morning.

We'll have to see if an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) turns up next week, but it would certainly be welcome with Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire schools both being off. But could someone please tell Old Oak to have an Adelante warmed up first thing in the morning, just in case the 125 won't work. This isn't the train to provide a Turbo on.

The diagram starting with the 05.50 from Moreton-in-Marsh was an HST today for the first time, though if the Adelante comeback is true, then I expect this working will revert sharpish, as an HST is probably overkill capacity-wise at this time of day, even from Oxford.

On the assumption that Friday is the last day of 180s (for the time being?), then the 17.51 London to Worcester and the 20.58 return (PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) 23.22) looks like it may be the last booked duty to run, as that Bristol diagram ends with the 19.53 from Exeter, due Paddington 22.30.
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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2008, 07:29:13 »

Today's overcrowding on the 08.37 from Worcester was because it is half-term for schools in Worcestershire. And a friend who normally rides in the front coach eventually turned up in the quiet coach at the back as we were heading towards Kingham and said coach E was occupied by a massed group of Cub Scouts, which probably made matters even worse than a usual half-term morning.

We'll have to see if an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) turns up next week, but it would certainly be welcome with Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire schools both being off. But could someone please tell Old Oak to have an Adelante warmed up first thing in the morning, just in case the 125 won't work. This isn't the train to provide a Turbo on.

The diagram starting with the 05.50 from Moreton-in-Marsh was an HST today for the first time, though if the Adelante comeback is true, then I expect this working will revert sharpish, as an HST is probably overkill capacity-wise at this time of day, even from Oxford.

On the assumption that Friday is the last day of 180s (for the time being?), then the 17.51 London to Worcester and the 20.58 return (PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) 23.22) looks like it may be the last booked duty to run, as that Bristol diagram ends with the 19.53 from Exeter, due Paddington 22.30.

Don';t count on it happening though!
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« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2008, 13:12:11 »

I propose a renaming:

MTLTA

"More Trains, Less Tony Ambrose"

 Grin Grin Grin Prehaps a resurrection of the campaign to stop the low flying aircraft now that the holiday season is upon us again approaching Bristol International Airport will feel the time.

I've heard the 180 story also so there must be some substance behind it, they will be used to cover Cotswold line work while HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))'s are withdrawn from service to have GSM radio equipment fitted which by all accounts is a fairly big job!

I was made to modify this post because some people regarded it as a personal attack on a certain person. Funny that attacks on First Great Western are allowed though! Double Standards spring to mind! 
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« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2008, 13:39:13 »

I propose a renaming:

MTLTA

"More Trains, Less Tony Ambrose"

 Grin Grin Grin Prehaps a resurrection of his campaign to stop the low flying aircraft now that the holiday season is upon us again approaching Bristol whilst he attends to his allotment Grin Grin Grin

I've heard the 180 story also so there must be some substance behind it, they will be used to cover Cotswold line work while HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))'s are withdrawn from service to have GSM radio equipment fitted which by all accounts is a fairly big job!


So they won't be permanent? Hmmmmm- come on FGW (First Great Western) make up your mind.
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2008, 19:25:34 »

What's Andrew Haines' email address? Someone should email him (and others) DEMANDING a conformation for all these rumours.

If they are true, tn FGW (First Great Western) may survive.

If they are false, they might be another nail in FGW's coffin!

I hope it is true, and salute A Haines if they are!

PS- how do we know that he is not a member of this forum.......?
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« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2008, 19:28:15 »

Was the email I just posted too public then  Undecided
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« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2008, 19:47:05 »

I think that you have made your point now, Btline.....

Andrew Haines e-mail address (for anyone who missed it) is :

andrew.haines[at]firstgroup.com  Grin

And if you are reading this, Andrew, then you are of course more than welcome to join up....
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« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2008, 20:03:56 »

I think that you have made your point now, Btline.....

Huh What point?

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« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2008, 20:20:38 »

Email sent.

Will notify you about reply when/if it comes!
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« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2008, 20:54:35 »

I think that you have made your point now, Btline.....

Huh What point?

Have removed duplicate post on other thread!

I was gently referring to the duplicate post, and thanks for sorting that out.
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