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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 19:26:55 » |
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This is the first I've heard of this, not sure what to make of it. Is it a serious proposal?
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 19:30:01 » |
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Is it a serious proposal?
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To view my GWML▸ Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/ |
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2015, 19:54:06 » |
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When you first read about something like this in local rag it's hard to take seriously. I would have thought redoubling Dorchester to Moreton and adding a bit more juice to the third rail would be cheaper then redoubling and resignalling Dorchester to Yeovil, not to mention building a link to Yeovil Junction off the line from Dorchester.
To me this is a non-story unless someone can come with something from Network Rail, ORR» or Dft.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2015, 21:22:10 » |
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The reason that the new route via Yeovil and Salisbury is because the current route to London from Weymouth, which goes through Bournemouth and Poole, is already full to capacity and the track does not have enough electricity to power a fast train. "The track does not have enough electricity".  I presume they mean it has third-rail electrification, which cannot power a train to such high speeds as OLE▸ . |
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2015, 21:24:33 » |
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The reason that the new route via Yeovil and Salisbury is because the current route to London from Weymouth, which goes through Bournemouth and Poole, is already full to capacity and the track does not have enough electricity to power a fast train. "The track does not have enough electricity". I presume they mean it has third-rail electrification, which cannot power a train to such high speeds as OLE▸ . The Bournemouth to Weymouth 3rd rail DC▸ electrification was done on the cheap. It didn't have more than an hourly service at the time so the number of sub-stations were kept to a minimum and hence the operating restrictions in place today. You have to remember the railway was in decline at the time so don't blame BR▸ for a lack of forthought |
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2015, 22:23:49 » |
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The Weymouth to London time is now barely less than at electrification as the gains have been eaten into by additional stops after Southampton, such as Winchester, Basingstoke, Woking etc, (completely non stop at one time) although there are now two services within a clock hour. Some local journeys are longer due to the skip stopping up to Christchurch.
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Bmblbzzz
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2015, 23:19:21 » |
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The reason that the new route via Yeovil and Salisbury is because the current route to London from Weymouth, which goes through Bournemouth and Poole, is already full to capacity and the track does not have enough electricity to power a fast train. "The track does not have enough electricity". I presume they mean it has third-rail electrification, which cannot power a train to such high speeds as OLE▸ . The Bournemouth to Weymouth 3rd rail DC▸ electrification was done on the cheap. It didn't have more than an hourly service at the time so the number of sub-stations were kept to a minimum and hence the operating restrictions in place today. You have to remember the railway was in decline at the time so don't blame BR▸ for a lack of forthought So it's a genuine currant shortage rather than a lack of voles. Still, I say once again to sloppy journalism. |
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2015, 00:14:33 » |
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So it's a genuine currant shortage rather than a lack of voles. Still, I say once again to sloppy journalism. Hmm. In defence of journalists ( did I really type that??), yore speling is apauling.   (And, to be fair, I am far from immune to making typos myself!).  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2015, 01:07:13 » |
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So it's a genuine currant shortage rather than a lack of voles.
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2015, 01:17:57 » |
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Kenneth Grahame wrote about moles, rather than voles, though. |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2015, 01:37:40 » |
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Ratty was a water vole. |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2015, 01:44:59 » |
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You are absolutely right (as usual).  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2015, 08:28:23 » |
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On the subject of typos, I like Bignosemac's new sig line. But I think we have Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials series to thank for the voles and currants, or at least their popularisation. Back to Weymouth, or at least Yeovil: When you first read about something like this in local rag it's hard to take seriously. I would have thought redoubling Dorchester to Moreton and adding a bit more juice to the third rail would be cheaper then redoubling and resignalling Dorchester to Yeovil, not to mention building a link to Yeovil Junction off the line from Dorchester.
To me this is a non-story unless someone can come with something from Network Rail, ORR» or Dft.
Couldn't they use the chord (I think that's the correct term) that runs roughly from Yeovil Penn Mill to Yeovil Junction? Sure, it would mean reversing twice and add unnecessary distance but I don't think those are serious problems as I don't think they're really going to do it. |
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2015, 09:03:48 » |
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Couldn't they use the chord (I think that's the correct term) that runs roughly from Yeovil Penn Mill to Yeovil Junction? Sure, it would mean reversing twice and add unnecessary distance but I don't think those are serious problems as I don't think they're really going to do it.
They could but that would add around 15 minutes to the journey time which just adds to the theory that this is a non-starter. |
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