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« on: February 06, 2008, 08:40:13 » |
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HST▸ carriages on the Cotswold line seem to have a mismatch of labeling, the train manager will state 'please note that only carriages A,B,C and D will be platformed. I noted that I was getting on in coach D which was the third coach but has C1▸ ..... for the seat numbers, on checking when I get off the train it has two carriage D's.
Are the seat numbers meant to indicate the carriage letter as well, this can cause panic to travellers unused to short platforms as they think they are safely in a coach that will allow them to exit onto a platform (from the seat numbers) then find that they cannot.
Even seen different carriage letters at the two ends of the same carriage (one having been stuck over another letter).
is this just a consequence of the incomplete state of refurbishment, will the carriage sets settle down eventually or are they continually moved between trains?
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12hoursunday
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 09:55:56 » |
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. I noted that I was getting on in coach D which was the third coach but has C1▸ .....
the reference to the markings C1 you will find on all coaches in an HST▸ set. The coach lettering you require can be found next to the door. |
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redskin125
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 14:05:55 » |
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Alot of the HST▸ formations are all over the place at present due to the ongoing refurbishment, as coaches come back from works they are being pressed into service as soon as all the acceptance checks are carried out. I can think of a few HST's in recent weeks that have multiple coaches in of the same character, worst of all was a set with 3 coach E's, which is frustating as these have the disabled toilet and we've had numerous sets running around without disabled toilet facilities. Problem is, it's going to take an awful lot of work and time to get the HST's back to the normal A to H formation.
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devon_metro
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 16:27:05 » |
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Alot of the HST▸ formations are all over the place at present due to the ongoing refurbishment, as coaches come back from works they are being pressed into service as soon as all the acceptance checks are carried out. I can think of a few HST's in recent weeks that have multiple coaches in of the same character, worst of all was a set with 3 coach E's, which is frustating as these have the disabled toilet and we've had numerous sets running around without disabled toilet facilities. Problem is, it's going to take an awful lot of work and time to get the HST's back to the normal A to H formation.
There was one running round with 4 TSDs  I was in an actual coach E the other day with disabled toilet (I THINK!) and it has Dxx next to the seat number  |
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Conner
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 16:57:32 » |
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Alot of the HST▸ formations are all over the place at present due to the ongoing refurbishment, as coaches come back from works they are being pressed into service as soon as all the acceptance checks are carried out. I can think of a few HST's in recent weeks that have multiple coaches in of the same character, worst of all was a set with 3 coach E's, which is frustating as these have the disabled toilet and we've had numerous sets running around without disabled toilet facilities. Problem is, it's going to take an awful lot of work and time to get the HST's back to the normal A to H formation.
There was one running round with 4 TSDs I was in an actual coach E the other day with disabled toilet (I THINK!) and it has Dxx next to the seat number Before the refurbishment there wasn't a TSD to every HST set so FGW▸ made some. They placed a disabled toilet at one end. Removed the window from one side and stuck it on the other. It looks like a TGS on one side and a double toilet on the other. |
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 17:04:04 » |
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Alot of the HST▸ formations are all over the place at present due to the ongoing refurbishment, as coaches come back from works they are being pressed into service as soon as all the acceptance checks are carried out. I can think of a few HST's in recent weeks that have multiple coaches in of the same character, worst of all was a set with 3 coach E's, which is frustating as these have the disabled toilet and we've had numerous sets running around without disabled toilet facilities. Problem is, it's going to take an awful lot of work and time to get the HST's back to the normal A to H formation.
There was one running round with 4 TSDs I was in an actual coach E the other day with disabled toilet (I THINK!) and it has Dxx next to the seat number Before the refurbishment there wasn't a TSD to every HST set so FGW▸ made some. They placed a disabled toilet at one end. Removed the window from one side and stuck it on the other. It looks like a TGS on one side and a double toilet on the other. wots TSD |
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Conner
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 17:12:49 » |
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Alot of the HST▸ formations are all over the place at present due to the ongoing refurbishment, as coaches come back from works they are being pressed into service as soon as all the acceptance checks are carried out. I can think of a few HST's in recent weeks that have multiple coaches in of the same character, worst of all was a set with 3 coach E's, which is frustating as these have the disabled toilet and we've had numerous sets running around without disabled toilet facilities. Problem is, it's going to take an awful lot of work and time to get the HST's back to the normal A to H formation.
There was one running round with 4 TSDs I was in an actual coach E the other day with disabled toilet (I THINK!) and it has Dxx next to the seat number Before the refurbishment there wasn't a TSD to every HST set so FGW▸ made some. They placed a disabled toilet at one end. Removed the window from one side and stuck it on the other. It looks like a TGS on one side and a double toilet on the other. wots TSD Trailer Standard Disabled. A standard class coach with a Disabled toilet and disabled space. |
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devon_metro
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2008, 17:41:57 » |
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Alot of the HST▸ formations are all over the place at present due to the ongoing refurbishment, as coaches come back from works they are being pressed into service as soon as all the acceptance checks are carried out. I can think of a few HST's in recent weeks that have multiple coaches in of the same character, worst of all was a set with 3 coach E's, which is frustating as these have the disabled toilet and we've had numerous sets running around without disabled toilet facilities. Problem is, it's going to take an awful lot of work and time to get the HST's back to the normal A to H formation.
There was one running round with 4 TSDs I was in an actual coach E the other day with disabled toilet (I THINK!) and it has Dxx next to the seat number Before the refurbishment there wasn't a TSD to every HST set so FGW▸ made some. They placed a disabled toilet at one end. Removed the window from one side and stuck it on the other. It looks like a TGS on one side and a double toilet on the other. I know that  |
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Conner
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 17:58:05 » |
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Alot of the HST▸ formations are all over the place at present due to the ongoing refurbishment, as coaches come back from works they are being pressed into service as soon as all the acceptance checks are carried out. I can think of a few HST's in recent weeks that have multiple coaches in of the same character, worst of all was a set with 3 coach E's, which is frustating as these have the disabled toilet and we've had numerous sets running around without disabled toilet facilities. Problem is, it's going to take an awful lot of work and time to get the HST's back to the normal A to H formation.
There was one running round with 4 TSDs I was in an actual coach E the other day with disabled toilet (I THINK!) and it has Dxx next to the seat number Before the refurbishment there wasn't a TSD to every HST set so FGW▸ made some. They placed a disabled toilet at one end. Removed the window from one side and stuck it on the other. It looks like a TGS on one side and a double toilet on the other. I know that . It looks really weird though, don't you think? |
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2008, 19:49:23 » |
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. I noted that I was getting on in coach D which was the third coach but has C1▸ .....
the reference to the markings C1 you will find on all coaches in an HST▸ set. The coach lettering you require can be found next to the door. C1 is the National route restriction |
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IanL
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2008, 22:12:30 » |
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No, the C1▸ ......I was talking about are on the luggage shelf above the seats, the coach was labelled D outside by the doors, but the seats were numbered C1,C2....C40,C41 etc, the dots meaning continuingas I cant be bothered to type them all.
Sometimes the seat numbers match the carriage letter, but mostly they do not.
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2008, 22:23:25 » |
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I know just what IanL means - quite often, as HST▸ carriages have been inserted in the train slightly out of sequence, there are temporary 'Carriage D' labels stuck on the outside of the carriage, but inexperienced passengers then get on and are completely confused when their seat reservation for 'D40', for example, doesn't exist and someone is already sitting in 'C40' and they're not sure whether to challenge them or not ... !  |
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2008, 23:39:16 » |
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I know just what IanL means - quite often, as HST▸ carriages have been inserted in the train slightly out of sequence, there are temporary 'Carriage D' labels stuck on the outside of the carriage, but inexperienced passengers then get on and are completely confused when their seat reservation for 'D40', for example, doesn't exist and someone is already sitting in 'C40' and they're not sure whether to challenge them or not ... ! You see I use the survival of the fittest - if they cant apply brain or are so backward they wont challenge.....they are not going to survive in the dog eat dog world of 2008 |
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2008, 16:35:49 » |
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I know just what IanL means - quite often, as HST▸ carriages have been inserted in the train slightly out of sequence, there are temporary 'Carriage D' labels stuck on the outside of the carriage, but inexperienced passengers then get on and are completely confused when their seat reservation for 'D40', for example, doesn't exist and someone is already sitting in 'C40' and they're not sure whether to challenge them or not ... ! You see I use the survival of the fittest - if they cant apply brain or are so backward they wont challenge.....they are not going to survive in the dog eat dog world of 2008  What if somebody had NEVER travelled on a train before??? |
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