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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2015, 14:53:34 » |
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Unless they're next years leaves grown early due to the extremely un- December like temperatures !!!
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2015, 16:32:32 » |
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Hope so as I won't have to pick them up from my front garden.
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2015, 17:04:37 » |
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I can live with delays, and understand the problems associated with the 'leaf fall' season.
What I find disgraceful is the decision of XC▸ to cancel the first 2 trains out of Plymouth this morning.
Stood at Totnes waiting the 0558, no problems and on time. The next 'up service' is then 0750.
It is well documented the problems XC have with Dawlish and sea water, but this has been going on for years
and still no cure.
They have claimed cures in the same was as they claim to have sorted out the toilet smell problem. I expect that the only real cure for the sea wall problem is to swap the sets round with trains that don't have electrics on the roof. The class 220s are unsuitable trains for the routes they are used on in so many ways. |
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2015, 19:07:51 » |
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I believe the AT300 802s have brake resistors on the roof too? Hope they are mounted in a less vulnerable position.
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2015, 19:58:56 » |
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Will have?
No AT300 derivative for Greater Western has been built yet. One would hope that Hitachi are aware of, and will learn from, the problems the Class 220/221s have.
Hitachi now have a proven track record of delivering a product to specific requirements in the UK▸ with the Class 395. No reason why the same won't be true for the GW▸ AT300s.
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2015, 20:25:03 » |
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I expect that the only real cure for the sea wall problem is to swap the sets round with trains that don't have electrics on the roof. The class 220s are unsuitable trains for the routes they are used on in so many ways. There aren't any suitable trains to swap them for though, are there. No AT300 derivative for Greater Western has been built yet. I believe the class 800s are part of the AT300 family, and some of those have been built and indeed already in the UK▸ (one in North Pole depot). But I believe you are correct that the new Hitachi units (class 802 I'm led to believe) which are intended for running trains past Dawlish have not been built yet. |
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Don't DOO▸ it, keep the guard (but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea if the driver unlocked the doors on arrival at calling points).
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2015, 10:38:35 » |
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Usual XC panic if dicky forecast and Can Voyagers due to electrical equipment on roof. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2015, 14:45:01 » |
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There were a few delays today (Tuesday) as well as yesterday, due to "poor railhead conditions" which I assume is the old "leaves on the line" excuse. Seems the RHTT▸ trains are not being as effective as was hoped?  My partner is a train driver and I will tell you now people laugh at leaves on the line but it's no laughing matter, I must say Totnes is bad for poor railhead conditions there isn't much they can do! Doesn't help that Network Rail sometimes send out the RHTT after the 1st passenger service... |
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2015, 15:43:50 » |
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My partner is a train driver and I will tell you now people laugh at leaves on the line but it's no laughing matter, I must say Totnes is bad for poor railhead conditions there isn't much they can do! Doesn't help that Network Rail sometimes send out the RHTT▸ after the 1st passenger service...
Hi, Sam - and welcome to the forum. I guess there's only a limited number of Rail Head Treatment Trains, and if the only one they've got in south Devon is doing the Newton Abbott to Plymouth line, it can't be doing the Plymouth to Newton Abbott until an hour later? |
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« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2015, 16:09:24 » |
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I know it's bad and the 1st train out of Plymouth on a Sunday usually gets stuck my partner had a nice 103 min delay on it the other week! And then the RHTT▸ got stuck behind that! Totnes is just horrible for slippy rails the amout of times my partner has come home late because of it is unreal
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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2015, 18:03:21 » |
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Usual XC panic if dicky forecast and Can Voyagers due to electrical equipment on roof. I was by the sea wall at nine this morning, an hour and a half after high tide and the waves were still crashing onto the track.  There could be problems again on Wednesday morning with high tide at Teignmouth due at 08:58 and 60mph winds forecast. |
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2015, 11:57:16 » |
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First time I've seen this category "Significant disruption" in Journeycheck, seems a good idea
Things pretty rough in the Westcountry, just seen some footage from Plymouth Hoe, for those who know the area the Tinside Lido is completely submerged - looks like the railways are holding up pretty well under the circumstances.
West Country overview
UPDATED 11:45
Penzance - most signalling issues resulting from weather conditions resolved and virtually back to normal.
Dawlish - Standing water in the 4 foot (between the rails) of the Up Line - 5mph speed restriction in force.
Teignmouth - Now only one track circuit failure on the Down line.
Ivybridge - Two track circuit failures one on the Up and one on the Down.
Looe branch - Reinstated with 2L91.
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2015, 11:43:27 » |
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I expect that the only real cure for the sea wall problem is to swap the sets round with trains that don't have electrics on the roof. The class 220s are unsuitable trains for the routes they are used on in so many ways. There aren't any suitable trains to swap them for though, are there. well XC▸ could acquire a couple more HSTs▸ and dedicate them to the sea wall run. Might they be able to get them from EMTs» in exchange for a couple of voyagers? I am sure that this throws up various issues but doesn't seem flat out impossible if there was a will to do more than check the weather and tide orecast and simply give up trying to run the service when the tide is high. Edit to fix quoting - Grahame |
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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2015, 11:47:33 » |
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And how/where would the Voyagers be maintained? Back at XC▸ every night?
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