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Saw a chap denied entry to Bond Street Elizabeth Line station with one a couple of weeks ago.
Given the recent well publicised incidents with Lithium batteries and concern over their safety, it's entirely wise to ban them from public transport I think, leaving aside the antisocial aspect.
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« Reply #316 on: June 02, 2023, 12:56:46 » |
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Is this a blanket ban across all operators, and if so have I missed something on National Rail or Network Rail?
Basically yes. There have been far to many problems with e-scooters, mono wheels etc across the network |
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« Reply #317 on: June 02, 2023, 13:02:54 » |
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Yes, it’s the speed at which fumes engulf an enclosed space which is frightening. Does it open up a can of worms if similar batteries are used on mobility devices for the disabled?
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« Reply #318 on: September 01, 2023, 18:14:25 » |
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A Herefordshire couple were kicked off a Great Western Railway train after a train manager ‘took exception’ to their converted bike, believing that it was a fire hazard and banned from rail services. Road CC forumLittle sympathy from cyclists for the couple.And someone has pointed out the inaccurate (?) stock photo. |
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« Reply #319 on: September 01, 2023, 21:18:03 » |
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Stupid train manager obviously didn't know a Flux Capacitor when he saw one ! Hope the train they actually got on didn't exceed 88mph..................
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« Reply #320 on: September 02, 2023, 11:09:56 » |
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That does look horrendous and I wouldn't give it house room (the e-bike wiring, not the lovely paint job on the Class 57!).
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« Reply #321 on: September 02, 2023, 16:42:45 » |
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Whilst I am generally in favour of electric cycles, that one does look a bit of a bodge, it might in fact be safe, but I can understand the train manager being cautious.
The main risk is lithium batteries, and NOT untidy looking electric wiring. The risk is greatest when being charged, but they can catch fire at other times.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #322 on: September 02, 2023, 18:04:00 » |
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that one does look a bit of a bodge, it might in fact be safe, but I can understand the train manager being cautious.
The main risk is lithium batteries, and NOT untidy looking electric wiring.
As an Electrical Engineer "untidy looking electric wiring" raises a red flag immediately to me. If the person doing the job cannot (or doesn't) do a "tidy" job then I would immediately worry about the quality of that person's subject knowledge..............if it looks cheap and nasty................!! Expensive lithium batteries are problematic (ask Boeing, batteries from Yuasa !) - cheap (and nasty) ones are potentially lethal. |
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« Reply #323 on: September 02, 2023, 18:55:51 » |
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That does look horrendous and I wouldn't give it house room (the e-bike wiring, not the lovely paint job on the Class 57!).
I’d be very surprised if they caught the sleeper on the Cotswold line. Although the carriages and loco did run to Oxford once after a train failure. That was around 2010 from memory. |
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« Reply #324 on: September 03, 2023, 09:09:46 » |
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that one does look a bit of a bodge, it might in fact be safe, but I can understand the train manager being cautious.
The main risk is lithium batteries, and NOT untidy looking electric wiring.
As an Electrical Engineer "untidy looking electric wiring" raises a red flag immediately to me. If the person doing the job cannot (or doesn't) do a "tidy" job then I would immediately worry about the quality of that person's subject knowledge..............if it looks cheap and nasty................!! Expensive lithium batteries are problematic (ask Boeing, batteries from Yuasa !) - cheap (and nasty) ones are potentially lethal. I agree Clan Line it looks very high risk, doubt it has a fuse or circuit breaker, I suspect they went cheep on the battery and charger. Ticking time bomb |
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« Reply #325 on: September 03, 2023, 09:58:55 » |
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As so often first impressions are vital.
To combine with another bete noir of mine, put your folding bike in a bag on the bus. Could hide all sorts of nasties?
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« Reply #326 on: September 03, 2023, 10:21:15 » |
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As so often first impressions are vital.
To combine with another bete noir of mine, put your folding bike in a bag on the bus. Could hide all sorts of nasties?
Recently I saw station staff challenge a guy about what he had in a large heavy holdall. It looked like a folded E-scoter , the chap protested but the barrier staff would not let him through. BTP▸ turned up, the guy opened his bag and sure enough inside was an E-scoter |
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« Reply #327 on: September 03, 2023, 20:53:25 » |
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They got kicked off at Honeybourne but managed to persuade the train manager on the following service to carry them. Their return journey was uneventful all the way home.
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« Reply #328 on: April 08, 2024, 12:11:32 » |
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This happening in a train or bus doesn't really bear thinking about https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-68744317E-bike and e-scooter fires are the fastest-growing fire risk in London: statistics indicate there have been at least 40 this year. |
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« Reply #329 on: April 08, 2024, 13:31:11 » |
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Is it? The failure of the government to legislate the type of personal e-vehicles - e-Scooters - low speed, no helmet needed (15kmH
- e-Scooters - higher speed, helmet needed ( 25kmH)
- e-bikes - Cycle assist, helmet needed (25kmH)
- e-bikes - Cycle assist, helmet needed (35kmH)
- e-Bikes - Throttle control, helmet needed (35kmH)
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and the quality of batteries for Scooters/Bikes, with certified Battery Management Systems is probably a big cause of this. The number of times I see high speed eScooters in Bristol is alarming, and the lack of wearing helmets! |
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