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Author Topic: E-bike and E-scooter - ongoing issues and discussion (merged posts)  (Read 128082 times)
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« Reply #240 on: August 16, 2022, 03:58:35 »

Further investigation suggests that powered electric vehicles that are not allowed on the road could be used in parks, etc, with the permission of the landlord and with conditions set by the landlord.  As an example, Wandsworth Council allow Segways to be operated by a company that takes groups around Battersea Park, all carefully insured and regulated to ensure that the hirers are tall enough an in the right weight band.

Such authorisation is rare and my local town council neither allows (nor to my knowledge has been approached) on any allowance.  See http://grahamellis.uk/blog591.html for my research and the byelaws!!
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« Reply #241 on: August 17, 2022, 18:37:38 »

Concern from East Reading:

"TVP has been 'proactively stopping' riders to advise them of the law but users are often 'not interested'   Perhaps a £50 fine might make them "interested"?

Incidentally when I posted similarily on my NextDoor Neighbourhood forum, I entered "escooter" in the searchbox to find the latest thread and, inexplicably, NextDoor listed a number of local escort agencies...
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« Reply #242 on: August 18, 2022, 06:56:16 »

Many years ago I colleague of mine at college used a technical/scientific word process. He didn't get what he was expecting when he did a search for help with LATEX.
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« Reply #243 on: August 18, 2022, 22:05:33 »

Hmmm, makes you really proud to live in Bristol! Sad

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristols-big-issue-bike-rental-7481316
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« Reply #244 on: August 19, 2022, 07:01:03 »

Makes you wonder how the e-bikes that TfL» (Transport for London - about) have just introduce will fare.
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« Reply #245 on: August 19, 2022, 10:09:57 »

I was quite surprised by that. I used to see a lot of damaged Yo bikes (the yellow ones) when that scheme was running, whereas never seen an obviously damaged or vandalised Bird bike. And the only reason I can think of that Bristol might have a much higher rate of vandalism is the availability of the docks – though I note they say more bikes are vandalised in Bristol than everywhere else they operate combined (in the world? Do they really have schemes outside Britain?) without giving any idea of the numbers available in each place.
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« Reply #246 on: August 19, 2022, 10:46:31 »


I was quite surprised by that.

Yes, so was I. 
I've yet to encounter my first vandalised Big Issue eBike but then again my haunts in Bristol are predominantly centred around the leafy burbs of Redland and surrounds.
I do wonder though, what it is that may make the eBikes more of a target than Voi eScooters.
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« Reply #247 on: August 19, 2022, 12:07:37 »

I do wonder though, what it is that may make the eBikes more of a target than Voi eScooters.

Yes, I found myself wondering the same thing. Could it have anything to do with how they are managed? You often see Voi scooters being moved around, and in the morning they're in neat rows ready to start a new day. It's relatively rare to see one looking like it's been dumped. Or are they just more robust?
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« Reply #248 on: August 19, 2022, 12:23:56 »

Do we actually know that they are more frequently vandalised than the scooters? Could it just be that it's "better management" in the sense that Voi predicted and allowed for a ~10% vandalism rate, so don't talk about it?
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« Reply #249 on: August 19, 2022, 23:17:28 »

Going back to the bit of Graham's question about taking e-bikes on trains, TfL» (Transport for London - about) fairly quickly banned e-scooters (and e-unicycles, which I didn't know were a thing) on all its services after a couple of nasty cases of spontaneous combustion by poor quality batteries.  For reasons I'm not clear about, it seems that there is not the same perceived risk with e-bikes, but it would be a shame if circumstances led to the ban on e-scooters being extended to e-bikes, particularly as my wife's now got one as her arthritic knees became too much of a barrier to pedalling up steep hills. 

The increased opportunities for avoiding having to lift the bike at stations thanks to more lifts, slopes etc do make the extra weight of an e-bike less of a problem than it might have been.  We've entirely given up though taking a bike of any sort on long distance trains thanks to the hoops you have to jump through. I was fortunate to enjoy many years of taking a bike all over the country, from the time bikes stopped having to be paid for until the demise of the simplicity of the guard's van.
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« Reply #250 on: August 21, 2022, 08:26:43 »

The batteries in e-bikes and e-scooters, and for that matter e-cars, use the same chemistry as the batteries in your phone and laptop. Phones and laptops aren't banned for two reasons: There are far too many of them, and they tend to be well made, with appropriate regulating circuitry, and therefore not burst into flames. The same is probably true of well made e-scooters and e-bikes, for instance those in the hire schemes, but unfortunately not true of every conversion kit and similar. Nor is it true of every domestic consumer item, which is the reason why you should only recharge them in the day and when you're in the house (so you can spot a fire before it gets too big).
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« Reply #251 on: September 15, 2022, 13:13:14 »

Kent bans escooters

Misleading intro, later qualified.
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« Reply #252 on: September 15, 2022, 13:32:42 »

Students riding outside the usable zones & on pavements. Ran over pensioner, photos showing nasty injuries.
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« Reply #253 on: October 04, 2022, 15:28:25 »

An idiot several times over: https://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/national/23014980.e-scooter-rider-caught-motorway-told-police-following-sat-nav/
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« Reply #254 on: October 05, 2022, 09:54:11 »

A wider view on e-scooters https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/02/we-may-tut-at-e-scooters-but-they-are-not-a-menace-we-should-fear
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