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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2015, 22:35:32 »

Not a stupid question at all, Brucey. All the reports are more or less garbled, but it is fair to assume that the passengers would have wanted to go to Stapleton Road as that is the nearest station to the festival site.

Without access to any official version of events, I suggest that the Epigram piece may be the closest to a true account of what actually happened. I'll quote it in full:

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From Epigram, University of Bristol Independent Student Newspaper

Chaos ensued between Clifton Down and Redland Station yesterday as students travelling to Tokyo World pulled the emergency alarm to escape a severely overcrowded train.

Students were forced to jump from the train and walk along the tracks in order to get back to the platform.

The incident occurred on the 14:48 train to Stapleton Road, as students travelled to attend the popular music festival Tokyo World. An estimated 150 to 200 students attempted to get on-board the two-carriage train at Clifton Down station, which was then kept waiting at the station for approximately fifteen minutes.

The train eventually left the platform, only to be stopped between Clifton Down and Redland stations for approximately twenty-five minutes due to further overcrowding at Redland Station.

A third-year Computer Scientist told Epigram that ^No one knew what was going on, the driver made an announcement over the tannoy but no one could really hear it.^

The initially jovial atmosphere turned to fear as students inside the severely overcrowded train began to panic and chant ^Let us off, let us off!^

Describing her experience on-board the train, a third-year History student told Epigram, ^It was awful, I was trapped in the corner. I^m claustrophobic so I started panicking and I felt like I couldn^t breathe. People around us were shouting to the guys nearest to the window to smash it open.^

One student jumped into the overhead luggage storage shelf to avoid the mass of people.

The emergency alarm was then pulled, and students jumped a metre from the train onto the tracks. A female student was seen lying by the side of the track after fainting and having a panic attack on-board the train.

One Aerospace Engineer told Epigram how he had to divert the crowd of people jumping off the train away from the ill student, fearing that she might be trampled.

He then described how students ran away from police officers as they walked down the tracks towards the train, causing many students to scramble up a bank and over a fence rather than walk back to the platform.

A third-year Economics student described the event as ^totally surreal.^

Another third-year Physicist said, ^m glad we all got out when we did. The train driver should have either realised there were too many people and kicked us off at Clifton, or carried on to the next station before stopping.^

Speaking to Epigram, Julian Burnell of Network Rail said ^these individuals put themselves and others at great risk, and inconvenienced hundreds of other people. The railway is a hazardous environment, which is why railway trespass is a criminal offence, carrying a maximum fine of ^1,000. We will be assisting the British Transport Police in their enquiries.^

Since appearing in Epigram this story has been picked up by the Bristol Post  who have lambasted ^scores of reckless rail passengers^, while The Guardian has acknowledged the plight of those on-board but still claims passengers only left the train ^after discovering it would miss [the] next station.^

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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2015, 00:26:51 »

These people are supposed to be the cream of intellectuality!

No. They're learning to be the cream. A few more years study and they may just get there. That is if they haven't been wiped out by a passing Class 150.

But, it must be remembered that it's not only the cream that floats to the top...
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2015, 09:37:06 »

These people are supposed to be the cream of intellectuality!

No. They're learning to be the cream. A few more years study and they may just get there. That is if they haven't been wiped out by a passing Class 150.

But, it must be remembered that it's not only the cream that floats to the top...

Indeed.....don't confuse attendance at University with intellectual ability, the two don't always fit together these days!
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2015, 09:57:03 »

The Epigram article is interesting.  Circumstances rather remind me of unauthorised evacuations of Eurostar.  Whilst the evacuees must be regarded as responsible for their own action, the common factor to all these incidents is people complaining about lack of information.  The PA (Public Address (broadcast loudspeaker announcements) or Passenger Assist (railway staff providing physical assistance to passengers with mobility issues), depending on context) system on a train is a vital piece of safety equipment and I would hope that any enquiry examines whether it was used to full effect. 
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2015, 11:26:02 »

The PA (Public Address (broadcast loudspeaker announcements) or Passenger Assist (railway staff providing physical assistance to passengers with mobility issues), depending on context) system on a train is a vital piece of safety equipment and I would hope that any enquiry examines whether it was used to full effect. 

I have been on countless trains where the PA system may as well not have been there. I even remember sitting in the quiet carriage and not hearing what was being said because the volume was so poor.
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2015, 16:32:09 »

I have been on countless trains where the PA (Public Address (broadcast loudspeaker announcements) or Passenger Assist (railway staff providing physical assistance to passengers with mobility issues), depending on context) system may as well not have been there. I even remember sitting in the quiet carriage and not hearing what was being said because the volume was so poor.

I hope you pass the information on to the driver/TM (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context) - they always seem very receptive when I have informed them I couldn't hear them, one driver a few years ago was very pleased, said he would repeat it again speaking louder and asked me to let him know if i could hear that or not (which I couldn't).
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2015, 08:49:06 »

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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2015, 09:30:45 »

I have been on countless trains where the PA (Public Address (broadcast loudspeaker announcements) or Passenger Assist (railway staff providing physical assistance to passengers with mobility issues), depending on context) system may as well not have been there. I even remember sitting in the quiet carriage and not hearing what was being said because the volume was so poor.

I hope you pass the information on to the driver/TM (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context) - they always seem very receptive when I have informed them I couldn't hear them, one driver a few years ago was very pleased, said he would repeat it again speaking louder and asked me to let him know if i could hear that or not (which I couldn't).

Indeed I do virtually every time. Most say something along the lines of "Apologies, but I can't do anything about it"
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