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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2008, 23:01:18 » |
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TGS = Trailer Guard Standard (Mark 3 coach type) - 'usually' Coach A.  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2008, 07:08:08 » |
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I think you must be mistaken about HST▸ sets running around minus the TGS, to put it simply this coach is fundamental to the operation of the CDL▸ System so without a major rewire it aint possible
Wots TGS? Remember our acronym page - I've checked and TGS is there ... but let me know if you find anything missing! |
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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2008, 10:47:23 » |
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HST▸ 's have to run with a TGS, whether the vehicle is in or out of passenger use. I had an HST running for 2 day's without a TGS, having arranged for all the equipment carried in it to be transferred to the staff closet in the buffet car. No thanks for running 2 days worth of services with it, just a curt reminder from 'senior' management not to do it again.
No wonder FGW▸ is a mess with "Senior Management" HELL BENT on cancelling services INSTEAD OF SOMEONE USING COMMON F***ING SENSE |
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2008, 11:11:32 » |
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Trailer Guard Standard That coach that is nowhere near First Class that the guards little hidey-hole is  They usually hide in the buffet |
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
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"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2008, 12:12:36 » |
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Turbo time again in the Cotswolds on Saturday
09:08 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:06
This train will run short formed with 5 carriages.
09:48 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:06
This train will run short formed with 3 carriages.
Regret no catering facilities available.
13:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:39
This train will run short formed with 3 carriages.
17:08 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 20:06
This train will run short formed with 3 carriages.
Looks like the HST▸ for the 05.42 from London to Malvern to work the 09.08 was failed, so the Adelante for the 06.51 from London got sent out early, with the Turbo taking its place. At least this diagram keeps it off any of the late afternoon and early evening trains from London.
Not a great morning on the Cotswold Line today really, as the 07.22 from Hereford was cancelled as far as Oxford after the empty stock got stuck due to a death on the line in South Wales.
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« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2008, 13:03:40 » |
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« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2008, 17:33:14 » |
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Trailer Guard Standard That coach that is nowhere near First Class that the guards little hidey-hole is They usually hide in the buffet because whilst running out of London they need to be towards the rear of the train to despatch |
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All postings reflect my own personal views and opinions and are not intended to be, nor should be taken as official statements of first great western or first group policy
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2008, 23:29:59 » |
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because whilst running out of London they need to be towards the rear of the train to despatch
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2008, 23:41:22 » |
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Trailer Guard Standard That coach that is nowhere near First Class that the guards little hidey-hole is They usually hide in the buffet because whilst running out of London they need to be towards the rear of the train to despatch So why they still there at WOS» and Hereford? |
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"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2008, 23:53:19 » |
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When a TM‡ dispatches he should if possible be at the rear most point of the train.
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2008, 00:13:00 » |
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No disagreement from me there, Ollie - but the points made by me and Mookiemoo still stand! (Nothing personal, as I hope you know by now!) |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2008, 00:26:08 » |
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Well you know, it's not as lonely in the buffet with the customer host.
If I was a train manager I wouldn't want to stay in the TGS either.
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2008, 00:54:48 » |
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Well you know, it's not as lonely in the buffet with the customer host.
If I was a train manager I wouldn't want to stay in the TGS either.
So move whatever equipment is vital to the buffet area and move the guards hidey hole there....... Or at least put it in the middle of the train so its more accessible (before anyone says what happens if the buffets are stupidly removed) |
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2008, 01:07:48 » |
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Agreed, Mookiemoo: In my humble opinion - 1. Safety equipment (and indeed the train manager/guard's cabin) is probably better located in the middle of the train (away from front or rear impact collisions, for example); 2. It would indeed be stupid to remove the buffet carriages - restyle them, maybe, with standard seats in reverse format, but do not remove them! |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2008, 08:51:16 » |
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Agreed, Mookiemoo: In my humble opinion - 1. Safety equipment (and indeed the train manager/guard's cabin) is probably better located in the middle of the train (away from front or rear impact collisions, for example); 2. It would indeed be stupid to remove the buffet carriages - restyle them, maybe, with standard seats in reverse format, but do not remove them! But look at nearly all the major Mk3 crashes, the buffet car is normally the worst off, for it's position in the impact anyway. |
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