Women only rail carriages ? Is this sexual discrimination ..?

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[BerkshireBugsy]

Just seen this on the BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) news site

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34059249

Basssiclly one one of the labour leader candidates is considering introducing women only carriages on some train services...curious to know what other members think about this

[ChrisB]

Will work as well as the (un-policed) quiet carriages. Ie it won't

[BerkshireBugsy]

Maybe on the HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) services they could use the remaining first class coach (only joking!)

[TaplowGreen]

...........I didn't realise Corbyn was now getting policy ideas from the Taliban?

[grahame]

Not a new idea - harking back to olden times (I remember seeing the last few women only compartments on the 4 SUB units in my youth / Beckenham Junction to Crystal Palace journeys) and the TV^▸ (Thames Valley) program last night "World's busiest railway" was showing them in Mumbai to this day.

Logic suggests that for equality reasons you should also have men only carriages.

[BerkshireBugsy]

Not a new idea - harking back to olden times (I remember seeing the last few women only compartments on the 4 SUB units in my youth / Beckenham Junction to Crystal Palace journeys) and the TV^▸ (Thames Valley) program last night "World's busiest railway" was showing them in Mumbai to this day.

Logic suggests that for equality reasons you should also have men only carriages.

When I posted this something in my memory told me this had been done before but got distracted by a cup of coffee before I could google

[froggycat]

What a ridiculous idea!! I am a woman and travel on the trains on my own at all times of day and night and have never had any problems.
As ChrisB said the quiet carriages are anything but (I have seen controllers go past people on phones there and not say anything!! Had visitors over from Australia who were amazed at the level of noise in the 'quiet' carriage - even talking is not permitted in quiet carriages in Sydney).

Rather than separating the sexes, how's about going back to teaching respect for each other and good manners?

[paul7575]

Surprised he had the time to think of this while considering important proposals such as leaving NATO...

Paul

[Tim]

not a supporter of women only carriage, but on problem trains, perhaps the solution would be to have a security guard in one coach and encourage anyone of either sex who felt vulnerable to travel there. 

[Adelante_CCT]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11825131/Jeremy-Corbyn-women-only-trains-When-I-was-groped-men-stepped-in.html

As described in this article, having other men around can actually be more beneficial to women (or other men). Just because it's a 'woman only' carriage, it wouldn't stop a man from actually entering.

Ridiculous idea if you ask me.

[Red Squirrel]

not a supporter of women only carriage, but on problem trains, perhaps the solution would be to have a security guard in one coach and encourage anyone of either sex who felt vulnerable to travel there. 

Yes - advocates of women-only carriages seem to be suggesting that sexual assaults must always involve a male aggressor and a female victim, but this is not the case: according to this Guardian article from 2013 nearly 1 in 8 victims were male in the period 2009-2012.

[Bmblbzzz]

Not a new idea - harking back to olden times (I remember seeing the last few women only compartments on the 4 SUB units in my youth / Beckenham Junction to Crystal Palace journeys) and the TV^▸ (Thames Valley) program last night "World's busiest railway" was showing them in Mumbai to this day.

Logic suggests that for equality reasons you should also have men only carriages.

Didn't know this had been done in UK^▸ (United Kingdom) in the past. Certainly it's standard practice in India and some other countries. They also have one half of the bus reserved for women (and children). How effective it is, I don't know. Certainly it doesn't seem to have done much to improve the general position of women in India.

[ChrisB]

That's for pure sexism reasons there....females are the underclass

[Bmblbzzz]

Theoretically it's one of several similar reservations (reserved seats for women on state councils, reserved college places and government jobs for "backward castes" and certain ethnic groups) aimed at ending the underclass situation, in addition to being intended to make women safer on buses and trains.

[ChrisB]

Are you referring to India or the UK^▸ (United Kingdom) with that post?