First Great Western rebrands to Great Western Railway and related department changes

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[bobm]

Looks promising.  Thank you for highlighting it, and a very warm welcome to the forum.

[ChrisB]

Already posted on Tuesday.....

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=16158.0

[grahame]

I'll be watching at 9 p.m. tonight if still awake ... and may I add my welcome, Rob on the Hill.

Sometimes things do get posted multiple times ... and whilst we try to avoid duplication, I don't think any of the moderator / admin team is too bothered by the occasional repeat.   After all - the BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) sets us an excellent example as I understand it's going to repeat this program tomorrow too 

[ChrisB]

As per my post - very early at 0300

[Rob on the hill]

Thanks for the warm welcome, and thanks for creating this great forum!
On topic of rebranding - here's a newly repainted power car:
https://twitter.com/RVEL_Derby/status/638975708098916352

[Charles T]

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[JayMac]

It would help if the photos didn't look as if they're being viewed through cataracts.

It would appear they are photos of a computer screen. Has permission been sought to reproduce?

[Charles T]

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[grahame]

It's interesting to see the description at Flickr "FGW^▸ (First Great Western) Night Riviera new style Sleeper berth . sneak shot of inside. due july 2015".

The poor quality (for whatever reason) of the images, and the use of the word "sneak", has me wondering as to how these pictures were obtained / whether the chap who put them onto Flickr could be in violation of some embargo or contract if he's involved in the work.   

People are responsible for what they post here, so in the first instance TransportFan28 takes responsibility for the consequences of his post. I appreciate that doesn't contain the actual pictures, yet it does strike me - if the pictures are indeed illicit in some way - as being rather like copying a film to someone and saying it's OK because it's a second generation copy and you have the permission of the person who originally, illegally copied it.  I suppose I would be very much happier if assured that First Great Western are happy with the links to the pictures appearing.

Because ... whist people posting are responsible in the first instance, in the second instance and having been alerted, some responsibility can fall on the operators of the hosting site.

Assurances would be welcome; further expressions of concern, especially from those who are involved with the rebrand and in the absence of substantiated assurances, will encourage me to put my moderator's gloves on and remove the links.

[grahame]

Sources indicates that if that there is considerable doubt as to how and indeed what these pictures are and how they were obtained. And so as a precautionary measure until we learn their good pedigree, I have obfuscated the links.

[grahame]

As a further follow up on the images, considerable doubt remained as to their source and legitimacy for publication, though we do appreciate that the links were posted here in good faith.  Bearing in mind our doubt, we double-checked back with FGW^▸ (First Great Western) who confirmed doubts as to whether some of them could have been properly obtained.  In light of this, TranportFan28 has deleted the links in his post above - thank you.  It leaves a bit of an odd gap in the thread where were talking about something invisible, but I am adding this note to help archivists of the future.

As a general comment, no problem with views / comments / pictures which may be negative / critical / not "official" - where a line might have been crossed on the various copyright and trade mark type issues, I have to step in to firstly help members protect themselves from sleepwalking into trouble, and secondly to avoid that trouble transferring to me too once I'm aware of an issue.  But it is oh - so - easy to make a mistake in this arena (I have done it) and usually no reflection on member(s) we come back to with requests for clarification or change.

[TaplowGreen]

.......I am sure that we will all sleep much more soundly in our beds tonight, in the knowledge that the dire threat to national security represented by a grainy photo of a chair in a railway carriage has been removed.....I hear that MI5s elite squads have been stood down for the day.............

[bobm]

I am not sure from your final smiley whether that comment was made in jest or not.  However just to be clear while no one suggested it is a matter of national security, it *is* a concern for the owners of forums (fora?) when copyright issues are raised as ultimately the buck stops there.  In addition, in this case, we had to take into account the person who took the photos - who was not the person who posted the links.  Most employers have a "social media" clause in their contracts and FGW^▸ (First Great Western) is no exception - indeed they have taken action against at least one member of their staff in the recent past.  Having checked with FGW that the photos were not authorised and on the balance of probability taken in breach of the person's terms of employment we had to protect them too.  Having communicated with the poster of the links he was also keen to avoid any issues and removed them.

To some it may seem like a storm in a teacup - but it is a very real issue which the moderator/admin team have to be aware of all the time.

You can be sure that once photos appear in the public domain from legitimate sources they will find their way here - and be welcomed.

[Fourbee]

The pdf pages of Planned Changes/Engineering Work are using the new GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) style from Saturday 19 September 2015:
https://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/-/media/pdf/ticketsandtraintimes/traintimes/plannedchanges/2015%20-%202016/week%2026%20saturday%2019%20september%202015%20to%20friday%2025%20september%202015.pdf?la=en

Here's the page that is linked from for info (in case the long link above breaks/breaks):
https://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/train-times-and-tickets/train-times/planned-changes

[LiskeardRich]

5z40 tomorrow 0920 from Long Rock is planned to be a 57 with full rake of green GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) sleeper carriages.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V18897/2015/09/12/advanced