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« on: July 20, 2015, 19:00:57 »

1. There is plenty of capacity on trains that run via the TransWilts



2. There aren't enough buses in Melksham



3. No-one would use a direct train from Trowbridge to Swindon



4. It's not possible to get a full size bus to Melksham Station



Whilst some of the circumstances may be a little different at present, these different times show you the art of the possible, even if you might at times have been officially told it's impossible!

Yes - people do use the train.  No - they don't all have enough capacity. Yes, it is perfectly possible to get buses to the station in Melksham.  And, yes, we have buses - they just need recognising into a sensible integrated service and then they'll need far less subsidy!
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2015, 19:47:58 »

To dispel a further myth, a Dart (picture 4) is not a full sized bus, but a midi bus!  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2015, 19:15:23 »

To dispel a further myth, a Dart (picture 4) is not a full sized bus, but a midi bus!  Grin

I am advised there are two types of Darts - regular ones and longer ones.   I don't know which one's pictured here, but I understand that both lengths have been in use on the Rail Replacement service.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2015, 19:36:12 »

To dispel a further myth, a Dart (picture 4) is not a full sized bus, but a midi bus!  Grin

I am advised there are two types of Darts - regular ones and longer ones.   I don't know which one's pictured here, but I understand that both lengths have been in use on the Rail Replacement service.

Its better than that

They are available in
8.5m, 8.8m, 9.0m, 9.2m, 9.3m, 9.8m,10.0m, 10.1m, 10.6m, 10.7m, 11.3m

At least 10 different body styles,

A narrow bodied version specifically for the Channel Islands!

No Dart body style or Length is deemed "full size" in the industry.

Full size would refer to something like the Volvo B7RLE or B10M, which from the photo of the Dart would fit in easily as you're only talking a metre or so longer and fractionally wider
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2015, 09:47:05 »

To dispel a further myth, a Dart (picture 4) is not a full sized bus, but a midi bus!  Grin

I am advised there are two types of Darts - regular ones and longer ones.   I don't know which one's pictured here, but I understand that both lengths have been in use on the Rail Replacement service.

Its better than that

They are available in
8.5m, 8.8m, 9.0m, 9.2m, 9.3m, 9.8m,10.0m, 10.1m, 10.6m, 10.7m, 11.3m
You call that 'full size'? My favoriate buses at the moment (still) are Optare Tempos YJ55BKE and YJ55BKF. I believe these are 12.6m long; and Richards Bros' drivers manage to get them (and two other 12.6m Tempos) through lower Fishguard and Aberporth which are both rather tight spots.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2015, 20:12:59 »

You can find the narrow bodied darts being used by First in Worcester and Hereford. One reason why we nicknamed them Jersey darts
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