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« on: June 24, 2015, 19:41:22 »

well this is a new one on me. i just had my ticket and railcard checked by a ticket inspector in plain clothes is this a fairly new idea from fgw or have I just been lucky and not come across one before!
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2015, 19:54:48 »

As a matter of interest: as they were apparently not wearing an official First Great Western uniform, how did they identify themselves as having lawful authority to examine tickets?
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2015, 20:04:15 »

I've also encountered plain clothes inspectors. They had id badges on a lanyard.
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2015, 20:15:25 »

If they were 'no clothes' ticket inspectors, I hope the ribbons on the lanyards were long enough ! Shocked
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2015, 20:19:37 »

See also http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=9551.0  Wink Cheesy Grin
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2015, 21:41:13 »

As a matter of interest: as they were apparently not wearing an official First Great Western uniform, how did they identify themselves as having lawful authority to examine tickets?

the guy showed me his id badge and the train manager was close by to and she did not say anything so reckon he had the authority to check tickets
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2015, 22:03:43 »

Common practice in some countries. In Prague, I was asked several times for my ticket by young men who looked like 6th formers on work experience. If they were aiming for tourists, I think the ^3 for three days' freedom of the whole public transport system (10 years ago - still only ^8) the pickings would have been slim. If you can afford to go to Prague, ^8 is not worth trying to dodge.
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2015, 09:03:09 »

Plain clothes clippies?  Whatever next? Undercover carpark attendants?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2015, 09:14:53 »

Common practice in some countries.

In the Hague apparently, petty criminals such as fare-dodgers, are made to work as undercover inspectors on the trams as part of their community service punishment.

Actually makes some sense, in that no one knows the tricks of a fare dodger like another fare-dodger.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2015, 09:17:33 »

Common practice in some countries.

In the Hague apparently, petty criminals such as fare-dodgers, are made to work as undercover inspectors on the trams as part of their community service punishment.

Actually makes some sense, in that no one knows the tricks of a fare dodger like another fare-dodger.

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2015, 09:56:57 »

Common practice in some countries. In Prague, I was asked several times for my ticket by young men who looked like 6th formers on work experience. If they were aiming for tourists, I think the ^3 for three days' freedom of the whole public transport system (10 years ago - still only ^8) the pickings would have been slim. If you can afford to go to Prague, ^8 is not worth trying to dodge.
In Budapest, if you are an EU» (European Union - about) citizen aged 60 or over, you get free travel anywhere at any time. Just carry your passport and enjoy!
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2015, 10:25:07 »

Plain clothes clippies?  Whatever next? Undercover carpark attendants?  Roll Eyes

Haven't you come across MET Parking yet? :-o
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2015, 11:12:40 »

Common practice in some countries.

In the Hague apparently, petty criminals such as fare-dodgers, are made to work as undercover inspectors on the trams as part of their community service punishment.

Actually makes some sense, in that no one knows the tricks of a fare dodger like another fare-dodger.

They also have plain clothes ticket inspectors on the buses & trams in the Hague, and believe me, they do not take any messing about or excuses whatsoever! Likewise on NS trains. Cheap travel with (generally) simple ticketing, but when they do catch fare dodgers, they are dealt with ferociously!
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2015, 12:30:28 »

I asked about this and was told it was less intimidating for people who are approached. As they usually are in numbers when on board, I can see their point, the last journey I made they were split, some uniformed and some not....
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2015, 19:41:45 »

Common practice in some countries.

In the Hague apparently, petty criminals such as fare-dodgers, are made to work as undercover inspectors on the trams as part of their community service punishment.

Actually makes some sense, in that no one knows the tricks of a fare dodger like another fare-dodger.

It would never work here, our ticketing system is so hugely complex that by the time the convict had learnt most of the rules, their sentence would be over.
Indeed our complex system sometimes confuses even well paid professional ticket inspectors, there have been a number of cases on these forums.
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A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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