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« on: June 21, 2015, 16:30:06 »

Apparently this is due to a shortage of drivers......FGW (First Great Western) state that enough drivers were scheduled but cannot comment further on why they were unable to work.

Not great for customers.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 17:23:01 »

A certain amount of last minute absence due to sickness etc is to be expected and should be allowed for.
It does seem rather odd for this to happen suddenly and on such a scale, I am not aware of any large outbreak of illness generally.

Could be some form of protest perhaps, if significant numbers have suddenly decided not to work overtime ?

Some of the earlier cancellations were due to animals on the line, but as posted above , most are staff shortage.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2015, 17:48:57 »

Possibly should be merged with http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15855.msg177808#msg177808
as these two topics are pretty much related
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 18:17:31 »

It's Fathers Day so you may find more members of staff deciding they don't wish to work their Sunday's. Many grades also have the option to opt-out of Sunday work so the company has to rely on people wanting to do them.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 19:03:24 »

And they want to be able to run trains when no guard is available; must be time to start thinking of removing the need for a driver too.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2015, 19:11:47 »

Whilst I understand that drivers would not wish to work today being Father's Day, it's once again the travelling public who are inconvienced because the train operating company doesn't have enough staff to cover the advertised timetable. Not helped of course by engineering work taking place between Chippenham and Swindon.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2015, 20:28:31 »

Possibly should be merged with http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15855.msg177808#msg177808
as these two topics are pretty much related

Hmm Undecided . Thanks for your constructive suggestion, Adelante_CCT.  However, in this particular case, I read that earlier 'animals on the line' issues, as well as other problems, caused widespread cancellations and delays in the Cotswolds - while more particular driver shortage issues caused disruption around Melksham.

I'm therefore inclined to leave these two discussion topics in their existing separate boards.
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2015, 22:37:58 »

A cow at Kingham. Or, more precisely, an ex-cow at Kingham. Sad
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2015, 22:46:00 »

A cow at Kingham. Or, more precisely, an ex-cow at Kingham. Sad

hmm is it now being cut into steaks and roasting joints I quite fancy a sirloin steak and all the trimmings!!

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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2015, 00:28:20 »

Wish I'd known about this earlier. I was catering today, and, whilst there was food a-plenty, I'm sure a few very fresh steaks would've been appreciated.
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2015, 05:22:17 »

Whilst I understand that drivers would not wish to work today being Father's Day, it's once again the travelling public who are inconvienced because the train operating company doesn't have enough staff to cover the advertised timetable. Not helped of course by engineering work taking place between Chippenham and Swindon.

It would appear that the TOC (Train Operating Company) did have enough staff rostered, but a number of those scheduled to work chose not to. I'm sure they had their reasons, and that they spared a thought for the thousands of customers they inconvenienced by doing so.

I'm not sure I share the hilarity regarding the cow being hit on the line, I've been on a train where a similar thing happened, and it was pretty upsetting for the driver and others concerned with the incident.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2015, 07:41:17 »

Whilst I understand that drivers would not wish to work today being Father's Day, it's once again the travelling public who are inconvienced because the train operating company doesn't have enough staff to cover the advertised timetable. Not helped of course by engineering work taking place between Chippenham and Swindon.

It would appear that the TOC (Train Operating Company) did have enough staff rostered, but a number of those scheduled to work chose not to. I'm sure they had their reasons, and that they spared a thought for the thousands of customers they inconvenienced by doing so.

I'm not sure I share the hilarity regarding the cow being hit on the line, I've been on a train where a similar thing happened, and it was pretty upsetting for the driver and others concerned with the incident.

Doesn't anyone here know if the rostering affected any of the other TOCS or is there something different about the FGW (First Great Western) driver employment contracts?
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2015, 08:22:24 »

It would appear that the TOC (Train Operating Company) did have enough staff rostered, but a number of those scheduled to work chose not to. I'm sure they had their reasons, and that they spared a thought for the thousands of customers they inconvenienced by doing so.

It's an "odd one".   Staff rostered don't normally just fail to turn up for "no good reason" - FGW (First Great Western) train crews are (personal experience) pretty responsible.  I suspect tight rostering, perhaps a flu virus going around where a higher than normal number called in sick, and backup calls to other staff "please come in to help" at the last minute being me with "sorry - my son/daughter has had me booked since April for Father's day".   

Still not clever at all; I run a business and we have a fallback to ensure that we're still fully operational even if someone calls in at 6 a.m. sick for a 6.15 start, and ironic when you look at the number of extra buses running around yesterday, with more drivers than there would have been train drivers providing an inferior service at (no doubt) extra cost.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2015, 08:43:34 »

I seem to recall another TOC (Train Operating Company) got into similar trouble with Sunday rostering a few years back. Have a feeling it was either FCC (First Capital Connect) or Silverlink or one of the North London suburban franchises.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2015, 08:53:50 »

I seem to recall another TOC (Train Operating Company) got into similar trouble with Sunday rostering a few years back. Have a feeling it was either FCC (First Capital Connect) or Silverlink or one of the North London suburban franchises.

I think it was Central Trains and its successor London Midland that had the most heavily publicised issues around Sunday (non-) working.
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