Quiet Carriage / Coach: restrictions and issues - ongoing discussion, merged topic

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[mukaumedia]

The problem is the same as any 'anti-social' behaviour: it's always down to whether or not we have the courage to challenge the offender and ask for what we need.  I sometimes do but sometimes I feel intimidated and don't.

When I have, I've never yet been abused or attacked - even though the offender usually has some reaction to being asked to stop. 

I agree with others here that the slapping of the PC keys is the worst.  It's a kind of insane, frantic, angry sound that (for some reason) really puts me on edge.  I hate it. 

It's really difficult for any of us, train manager and customer alike, to challenge people who are deliberately or unconsciously breaking the 'quiet carriage' rules - and it isn't helped that the 'request' by FGW^▸ (First Great Western) is inconsistent and badly communicated.

[Mookiemoo]

I once dropped a mobile phone into a fellow passengers glass of beer......it was friday wine club and I'd more than a few en route to hereford (thankfully being picked up).

A couple of request and a TM^▸ (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context) request and the prat was still unrepentent.....so I took direct action

[Btline]

I once dropped a mobile phone into a fellow passengers glass of beer......it was friday wine club and I'd more than a few en route to hereford (thankfully being picked up).

A couple of request and a TM^▸ (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context) request and the prat was still unrepentent.....so I took direct action

Well done. (claps hands) I wish I'd been there! You should have filmed it...

[mukaumedia]

Next time I hear someone shout "I'm on the train...", I'm going to add "...in the quiet carriage" at the same volume

[johoare]

Now that would be funny if we all did that every time someone said "I'm on the train" from the quiet carriage.. People would soon become to scared to do it 

[Btline]

Next time I hear someone shout "I'm on the train...", I'm going to add "...in the quiet carriage" at the same volume

Good plan. Followed by the the dropping of the phone into the nearest (preferably hot) beverage.

[mukaumedia]

...lols except on the First Class journey to Paddington I was on the other week.  No hot beverages for 'health and safety reasons' which turned out to be they'd run out of paper bags to put the drinks in.   

[dog box]

Not a good idea to be carrying hot drinks minus paper carrier, The water from the stills boiler is extremely hot and the movement of an hst at speed and the cup tops have a nasty habit of flying off, ........Train Managers, Senior Conductors, Conductors no such thing its just a fancy title.... according to the GE/RT 8000 Rule Book Modules they are all GUARDS.

[Btline]

No hot beverages for 'health and safety reasons' which turned out to be they'd run out of paper bags to put the drinks in.

Of for *************! If you spill hot tea, YOU should take responsibility, not go on "where there's a blame, there's a claim .com".

Train Managers, Senior Conductors, Conductors no such thing its just a fancy title.... according to the GE/RT 8000 Rule Book Modules they are all GUARDS.

Quite right! It's guard. Full stop.

[Glovidge]

The other day I was on a coach (NOT the quiet carriage) and had my MP3 player on and was asked politely by a man in front of me to turn it down.

I obliged by turning it off and suggested that there was a quiet carriage on the train where he could listen to the sound of silence to his heart's content. He didn't move

So if someone moans about the volume of my MP3 player they don't pay any attention to my human rights either!

[inspector_blakey]

Hmm. I make no comment on the human rights issue, or indeed the rights and wrongs of this particular situation, but technically the byelaws were on his side.

Byelaw 7, under "Conduct and Behaviour":

7. Music, sound, advertising and carrying on a trade
(1) Except with written permission from an Operator no person on the railway shall, to the annoyance of any person:
(i) sing; or
(ii) use any instrument, article or equipment for the production or reproduction of sound.

NB my emphasis

[Btline]

Sorry, if he could hear your music:

a- it's antisocial and selfish.

b- it's causing irreversible damage to your ears.

No need to turn it off, just down a sensible and considerate volume.

[paul7575]

This is the counter productive aspect of labelling a 'quiet carriage' - people wrongly assume they can make as much noise as they like in other carriages...

Paul

[JayMac]

I noticed today that in the Volo carriage,  the volume is set just right. I could hear no other user as I walked ddown the carriage and the volume was set just right to enable you to hear when a PA^▸ (Public Address (broadcast loudspeaker announcements) or Passenger Assist (railway staff providing physical assistance to passengers with mobility issues), depending on context) starts.......well at least with my headphones.

[thetrout]

Lets get the amplifiers out

*trout hides as he realises this post was not in the lighter side...!! *