Quiet Carriage / Coach: restrictions and issues - ongoing discussion, merged topic

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[onthecushions]

As a regular coach A (quiet carriage) occupant, I've found the following approaches to loud telephonists fairly successful:

" Do you realise that shouting into your phone damages the battery?"  - mostly the response is thanks, followed by quieter conversation.

" You realise that it's an on-the spot ^80 fine from the ticket inspector for using that in the quiet carriage?" - again, the response is mostly  panic.

 (for MP3 players) " Could you please either turn that down, or else turn it up so that we can all enjoy it." - absurdity usually works.

Bluff and politeness are very effective.

OTC

[Chris from Nailsea]

I only picked up on this particular news item because of the rather interesting use of a picture to illustrate it.

From the Sarasota News:

Federal regulators weigh permitting cellphone calls by airline passengers during flights


Photo: Chris McKenna (Thryduulf)
A headrest cover in coach A, the standard class Quiet Carriage on a First Great Western HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)). Mobile phones and personal stereos are not permitted to be used by passengers travelling in this carriage.

The new chairman of the Federal Communications Commission says rules against making cellphone calls during airline flights are "outdated," and it's time to change them.

FCC^▸ (First Capital Connect) chairman Tom Wheeler says modern technologies can deliver mobile services in the air safely and reliably, and the commission will consider a proposal to allow greater in-flight access to mobile broadband at a commission meeting next month.

The proposal would also allow passengers to use their smartphones to send email, text and download data. The proposal would apply to flights when they are over 10,000 feet in altitude, but not during takeoffs and landings.

The proposal to ease cellphone restrictions is being greeted enthusiastically by the Telecommunications Industry Association and the Consumer Electronics Association. But it's drawing protests from flight attendants, airline officials and others. The Association of Flight Attendants says passenger phone calls could go from "a mere nuisance" to a safety and security risk.

[LiskeardRich]

The 1626 from Plymouth to Penzance had a screaming child today, with the father saying to his female companion that if anyone tells him its a quiet carriage he will "bang them the **** out". I have a child of about the same age, and I wouldn't dream of sitting in a quiet carriage with her.

[bobm]

I also wouldn't dream of speaking like that in the presence of children either!

[LiskeardRich]

I also wouldn't dream of speaking like that in the presence of children either!

He was f-Ing and blinding the whole way from Plymouth to st Austell. I would never use such language round my girls (1&3 years), unfortunately though it seems reflective of modern days. My eldest does 15 hours a week at nursery and has picked up a variety of inappropraite language from her class mates.
I guess its what I believed to be basic etiquette to be quiet in a quiet coach, and also common sense not to take a baby/ toddler into a quiet zone. Maybe I am out of touch with reality though.

[BerkshireBugsy]

I also wouldn't dream of speaking like that in the presence of children either!

He was f-Ing and blinding the whole way from Plymouth to st Austell. I would never use such language round my girls (1&3 years), unfortunately though it seems reflective of modern days. My eldest does 15 hours a week at nursery and has picked up a variety of inappropraite language from her class mates.
I guess its what I believed to be basic etiquette to be quiet in a quiet coach, and also common sense not to take a baby/ toddler into a quiet zone. Maybe I am mout of touch with reality though.

You make a lot of good points Richard . I don't like (anyone) swearing in front of young children who often form the opinion this sort of language is acceptable. I'll stop that line of thought now because it makes me sound old!

Out of curiosity was the train very busy? I wouldn't personally think of taking young children in the quiet carriage

[bobm]

Not old BerkshireBugsy, you just have standards. Nowt wrong with that in my opinion. 

[LiskeardRich]

BerkshireBugsy, the service was busy but not standing, when I walked back to the buffet, I'd say 90% of seats filled, there was definitely room in the other carriages he could have easily chosen. I have the same line of thought and fully agree with your post. I guess that makes me sound old as well but to me is basic standards (I am only 25). I guess its down to upbringings and what is deemed acceptable in a persons upbringing