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« on: January 23, 2008, 10:05:49 » |
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I had been planning to suggest converting all the (usually empty) First-class sections on the turbo's into Quiet Carriages, which I am sure would be a very popular move.
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I missed the 07:22 from Tilehurst this morning & had to get the 07:43 fast train to Paddington & go back to Ealing Broadway.
I found a seat in the quiet carriage and all was well until Maidenhead, whereupon 3 guys came to sit at my table & talked incessantly all the way to Paddington despite my pointing out that it was supposed to be the quiet carriage & please could they either not talk or go & sit in another carriage?
They said that only mobile phones & MP3's were barred & there was nothing to prevent them talking as much as they wanted.
Why are some people so ^$%&^* inconsiderate? It was obvious I was trying to study (& that other people in the carriage were also trying to work).
Isn't it about time that "Quiet Carriages" were explicity required to be just that - with the guards given the authority to demand that anyone not prepared to be absolutely silent move to another carriage?
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2008, 10:09:56 » |
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I had been planning to suggest converting all the (usually empty) First-class sections on the turbo's into Quiet Carriages, which I am sure would be a very popular move.
However....
I missed the 07:22 from Tilehurst this morning & had to get the 07:43 fast train to Paddington & go back to Ealing Broadway.
I found a seat in the quiet carriage and all was well until Maidenhead, whereupon 3 guys came to sit at my table & talked incessantly all the way to Paddington despite my pointing out that it was supposed to be the quiet carriage & please could they either not talk or go & sit in another carriage?
They said that only mobile phones & MP3's were barred & there was nothing to prevent them talking as much as they wanted.
Why are some people so ^$%&^* inconsiderate? It was obvious I was trying to study (& that other people in the carriage were also trying to work).
Isn't it about time that "Quiet Carriages" were explicity required to be just that - with the guards given the authority to demand that anyone not prepared to be absolutely silent move to another carriage?
You get it all the time......... The worst IMHO▸ is opinion is when parents sit in their with their small children for long journeys - children either end up wailing or running about |
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2008, 11:08:24 » |
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Isn't it about time that "Quiet Carriages" were explicity required to be just that - with the guards given the authority to demand that anyone not prepared to be absolutely silent move to another carriage?
I was just thinking that it was about time we had a "quiet coach" thread!  I used to be fairly tolerant of the occasional ring tone (and amused at the tutting and glaring which would follow). With the HST▸ refurbishment, the "quiet coach" signage has become very low key - it used to be emblazoned on the seat antimacassars, now there are barely-visible window stickers. Add to that all the commuters who are new to HSTs (Twyford, Kennet Valley etc.) and are as yet "untrained", and coach A has become as noisy as the rest. And what are the rules anyway? I sometimes hear guards announce "Please refrain from using mobile phones and personal stereos, and keep unnecessary noise to a minimum". The automated announcement on 180s says "Please respect other passengers when using this coach" (shouldn't we respect other passengers in every coach?). Perhaps the suggestion of zero tolerance of any noise is not such a bad idea, since it removes all doubt  |
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2008, 13:05:03 » |
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Isn't it about time that "Quiet Carriages" were explicity required to be just that - with the guards given the authority to demand that anyone not prepared to be absolutely silent move to another carriage?
I was just thinking that it was about time we had a "quiet coach" thread! I used to be fairly tolerant of the occasional ring tone (and amused at the tutting and glaring which would follow). With the HST▸ refurbishment, the "quiet coach" signage has become very low key - it used to be emblazoned on the seat antimacassars, now there are barely-visible window stickers. Add to that all the commuters who are new to HSTs (Twyford, Kennet Valley etc.) and are as yet "untrained", and coach A has become as noisy as the rest. And what are the rules anyway? I sometimes hear guards announce "Please refrain from using mobile phones and personal stereos, and keep unnecessary noise to a minimum". The automated announcement on 180s says "Please respect other passengers when using this coach" (shouldn't we respect other passengers in every coach?). Perhaps the suggestion of zero tolerance of any noise is not such a bad idea, since it removes all doubt Several years ago now, I was in the quiet carriage and some ****** was using their phone and talking loudly - letting it ring out several times before answering it. He was asked politely by several passenger to tone it down, then the guard ........ By the time we got to Charlbury we'd just about had enough when he gave dogs abuse to a woman who again asked him to stop. So I got up, took his phone off him and dropped it into his cup of tea. The look on his face was priceless |
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2008, 13:31:48 » |
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Harsh, but probably fair! With regard to children in quiet carriages - yes, agree, but that's perhaps why they provide family carriages (which does make sense and should keep all the children together out of your way) but unfortunately they are usually packed out with people without children so then they have to find seats in normal and perhaps even quiet carriages. In kinda has to work both ways for everyone to be happy.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2008, 14:25:20 » |
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Byelaw 7; "Except with written permission from the operator no person on the railway shall, to the annoyance of any person:
(I) sing; or
(I) use any instrument, article or equipment for the production or reproduction of sound"
So it's not just the quite coach, this applies to ANY train, ANY coach, so next time someone is annoying you just quote "byelaw 7"!!
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2008, 16:06:19 » |
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I don't think you can just 'ban' children from the Quiet Coach. I sit in it often as it is less busy than the rest of the train and I never make any noise, I feel scared if I do as everyone glares at you so not all children are noisy.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2008, 16:21:38 » |
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Some people on the other hand have a nervous break down.
Was once in the quiet carriage and was talking quiety and asked by a total b*tch to move!!!
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2008, 16:30:42 » |
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Quiet not deathly silent Carriage
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2008, 16:34:25 » |
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Some people on the other hand have a nervous break down. A bit like this you mean http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/536925One for the suggestion box - silent carriages, noisy carriages and bedlam carriages, take your pick. |
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2008, 16:50:48 » |
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I don't think you can just 'ban' children from the Quiet Coach. I sit in it often as it is less busy than the rest of the train and I never make any noise, I feel scared if I do as everyone glares at you so not all children are noisy.
I dont have a problem with children who can sit quiet for the duration of journey It is the babies who cry, the younger children who get bored and run up and down Its the giggling girlies I have seen some very well behaved very young and older children - if there was an effective way of evicting the very noisy ones, I would not have any issue at all |
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2008, 16:55:05 » |
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If you hate "deathly silence" then all you need to do is sit in another carriage!
And as for the "total b***h" - was that me? :-)
Seriously, talking is talking, whether loudly or not, if you are sitting right next to the person who is doing it. So if it was the quiet carriage, she had every right to ask you to move if you were disturbing her.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2008, 17:36:25 » |
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No - the carriage was empty and she was the other side of the carriage.
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Jim
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2008, 18:00:50 » |
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If you hate "deathly silence" then all you need to do is sit in another carriage!
And as for the "total b***h" - was that me? :-)
Seriously, talking is talking, whether loudly or not, if you are sitting right next to the person who is doing it. So if it was the quiet carriage, she had every right to ask you to move if you were disturbing her.
Quiet coach rules on FGW▸ state that you should keep noise levels to a small amount, not make sod all at all. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2008, 20:38:42 » |
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No - the carriage was empty and she was the other side of the carriage.
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