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« on: December 10, 2014, 09:54:45 » |
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I was on a train service lady night from the Amsterdam area to Schipol airport. My ticket for the journey cost ^3.40 so not much On the Secong leg of the trip , which started from Amsterdam central, the ticket checks were very thorough and a tourist in front of me was done for not having a ticket. The total cost - if he had had any money - was ^35 The tourist had no money and claimed he had no ID but given the tourist was British the TM‡ insisted on seeing his passport. On this service they had two TMs checking tickets - one from each end of the carriage. I suspect this may be a lucrative route for fines  |
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chrisr_75
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2014, 14:25:49 » |
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I was on a train service lady night from the Amsterdam area to Schipol airport. My ticket for the journey cost ^3.40 so not much On the Secong leg of the trip , which started from Amsterdam central, the ticket checks were very thorough and a tourist in front of me was done for not having a ticket. The total cost - if he had had any money - was ^35 The tourist had no money and claimed he had no ID but given the tourist was British the TM‡ insisted on seeing his passport. On this service they had two TMs checking tickets - one from each end of the carriage. I suspect this may be a lucrative route for fines I recall from my time living over there that the ticket inspectors are particularly fierce and are not worried in the slightest about confrontation - no-one escapes their attention and excuses (tourist/no-speaky-Dutch/didn't understand the ticket machine etc etc) carry no weight whatsoever. Same goes for the trams & buses in the major cities. They tend to work in pairs as there are a lot of double deck trains over there, one for upstairs, one for downstairs so no-one can escape! Rare for a journey to pass on the trains without a ticket check, frequent random checks on trams/buses. |
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paul7575
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2014, 14:39:44 » |
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I was on a train service lady night from the Amsterdam area...
That's too much detail...  Paul |
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2014, 14:43:42 » |
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I was on a train service lady night from the Amsterdam area...
That's too much detail... Paul Lol Paul - I would normally go back and correct my typo but for entertainment purposes I will live it there ! Chrisr - your recollection in spot on. The British tourist asked the TM‡ how he was supposed to get to Schipol at which point the TM replied "walk" |
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JayMac
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2014, 14:47:52 » |
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I know they're quite liberal in Amsterdam, but ladies of the night on trains is a new one on me. They'd have difficulty showing their red light - might cause issues in stations!
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
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"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2014, 15:00:29 » |
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I know they're quite liberal in Amsterdam, but ladies of the night on trains is a new one on me. They'd have difficulty showing their red light - might cause issues in stations!
Allegedly - or So I was told when in Amsterdam by a local - you also have blue lights...I have no personal experience of either colour I must add ! |
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2014, 15:02:16 » |
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Is this possibly becoming a topic for 'the lighter side' ... ?  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2014, 15:06:10 » |
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Is this possibly becoming a topic for 'the lighter side' ... ? Groan |
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ellendune
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2014, 18:14:55 » |
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I recall from my time living over there that the ticket inspectors are particularly fierce and are not worried in the slightest about confrontation - no-one escapes their attention and excuses (tourist/no-speaky-Dutch/didn't understand the ticket machine etc etc) carry no weight whatsoever. Same goes for the trams & buses in the major cities.
But the TVM▸ 's seem to work and do speak English |
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BerkshireBugsy
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2014, 18:20:23 » |
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But the TVM▸ 's seem to work and do speak English
Indeed- and even this Brit with limited knowledge of Dutch TVMS managed to buy a ticket or two |
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Worcester_Passenger
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2014, 19:03:52 » |
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Some years ago, one of my professional colleagues was visiting the Den Haag tram people. One evening they took him to dinner out towards the beach, and explained that they'd come here so that he could watch their plain clothes revenue protection team hit the well-filled last tram back into town.
They met up with the revenue protection people in a bar round the corner. My colleague gets handed over to one of the team. She explains that they can't check the whole tram, otherwise there'd be a riot. Instead it's her job to identify two people (from their body language) who she can arrest at her door. The others will do the same at the other doors.
She is a young woman, late teens, with a punk Mohican haircut. My colleague is predictably embarrassed (he's a very Brit suit) on account of looking like her sugar daddy.
Anyway, they board the tram and it sets off. First thing the driver knows about the team being on board is when their uniformed colleagues board, three or four stops on. The guy at the front produces his warrant card and leans across the driver to switch off all of the ticket cancellors. The lady with the Mohican is joined by one of her uniform colleagues. She's identified her two targets, produces her warrant card, and demands to see their (non-existent) tickets. They're off the tram and soon being processed in the uniforms' van.
Whole thing is done v quickly (to avoid a riot). A quieter tram continues its journey. My colleague rejoins the guys from Den Haag.
"Where did you get her from?" he asks.
"Oh it's terribly simple" say the locals. "She was caught travelling without a ticket some months ago. She has a choice of a hefty fine or of doing community service. One of the ways in which she can do her community service is by working as a plain clothes inspector".
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JayMac
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2014, 19:50:08 » |
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Excellent! Poacher turned gamekeeper. With a bit of an embarrassment factor. Should any of her peers see her doing this community service, they may well think twice about effing it on public transport. Never work over here though. Six months would need to be allocated just for track and rolling stock safety training, conflict avoidance training, PACE» ... ...then another 5 years training to get one's head around the fares system to ensure the honest aren't penalised. 5 years plus is how long I've been at it and I'm still discombobulated* all too often. *My word of the day.  |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2014, 20:31:17 » |
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Discombobulated ? I haven't heRd that for a few years ! Now where's my tickling stick ? I suspect that are probably more than a few readers that haven't got a clue what I am talking about |
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Western Pathfinder
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2014, 21:47:11 » |
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Discombobulated ? I haven't heRd that for a few years ! Now where's my tickling stick ? I suspect that are probably more than a few readers that haven't got a clue what I am talking about Was that not Discomnockerated if we are talking about Ken Dodd. |
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JayMac
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2014, 21:53:36 » |
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My esteemed forum colleague, Chris from Nailsea, prefers being discomnadgerated I believe. |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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