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Author Topic: Class 387 coming to Thames Valley - ongoing discussion  (Read 536157 times)
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« Reply #300 on: July 28, 2016, 23:26:12 »

Adding to Ellendune's comments, but making it more specific to Taplow, they will run possibly from the middle of next year when the line out as far as Maidenhead is electrified.

They will run as 4 or 8 car formations on local services which in terms of numbers of seats (assuming an internal layout as per other 387s) is roughly equivalent to a 2.5 or 5 car Turbo.  The passenger environment is a massive step upwards from a Turbo though with much more room and more tables - similar to Chiltern's Class 168s if you've had the pleasure?  16 doors instead of 10/12 on the longest Turbo formations should mean dwell times at stations improve slightly and the fact they're electric will mean much quicker acceleration and there should be quite a leap forward in reliability.

They will probably only serve Taplow for a couple of years though, as when the Elizabeth Line opens fully in 2019 all trains are likely to be operated by their fleet of all 9-car trains.
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« Reply #301 on: July 28, 2016, 23:30:44 »

Thanks for your detailed update there, IndustryInsider.  Smiley

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« Reply #302 on: July 29, 2016, 09:22:46 »

As a Taplow user I'm can't wait for the 387s.

Also waiting for the howls of protest when commuters first see the Crossrail cattle trucks
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« Reply #303 on: July 29, 2016, 09:25:00 »

Thanks for your detailed update there, IndustryInsider.  Smiley



Seconded! Many thanks  Smiley
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« Reply #304 on: July 29, 2016, 10:50:24 »

According to realtimetrains records there were 3 return runs between Paddington and Airport Jn overnight:

(Paddington (London) - next trains)/2016/07/29/0000-2359?stp=S&show=all&order=wtt" target="_blank">http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/PAD/2016/07/29/0000-2359?stp=S&show=all&order=wtt

There's another run showing as I post this info, but it doesn't seem to be happening, followed by a number of out and back runs to Friars Jn.

I wasn't familiar with "Friars Jn" but it seems to be a trailing crossover DR to UR at 3m 53ch, between Old Oak and Acton.

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« Reply #305 on: July 29, 2016, 11:12:51 »

Both units currently stabled on different roads in North Pole Depot.

IIRC ('if I recall/remember/read correctly') Friars Junction used to be a slightly grander affair before the layout was modified to leave just the two sets of points. Now just used for access from the Relief Lines to the Reception Line (or whatever it's called).
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« Reply #306 on: July 29, 2016, 11:42:24 »

As a Taplow user I'm can't wait for the 387s.

Also waiting for the howls of protest when commuters first see the Crossrail cattle trucks

Pictures of those awful cattle trucks you talk of!!

https://twitter.com/Clinnick1/status/758970928294273024
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« Reply #307 on: July 29, 2016, 12:49:16 »

As a Taplow user I'm can't wait for the 387s.

Also waiting for the howls of protest when commuters first see the Crossrail cattle trucks

Pictures of those awful cattle trucks you talk of!!

https://twitter.com/Clinnick1/status/758970928294273024

They look pretty good, the interior is very reminiscent of the new subsurface LUL (London Underground Ltd) stock with the seating arrangement. While I was sorry to see the A-stock disappear from the metropolitan line, the reality is the new trains are a significant improvement all round and also appear to be much easier to keep clean with the 'lino' type flooring and seats raised off the floor.
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« Reply #308 on: July 29, 2016, 20:46:07 »

Adding to Ellendune's comments, but making it more specific to Taplow, they will run possibly from the middle of next year when the line out as far as Maidenhead is electrified.

The last time I spoke to a college in the NR» (Network Rail - home page) Crossrail electrification team they said all the wires will be run between Airport Jcn and Maidenhead by the end of November; I assumed he meant 2016 and not 2017  Grin   

There is still quite a bit of steel to go into the ground in places and to put up into the air, I suspect there will be a concerted effort during the Aug bank holiday.  I suspect a lot of the Overhead Linesmen have been deployed between Reading and Didcot of late.

The UK (United Kingdom) does have an acute shortage of Overhead Linesmen, most of the teams I have worked with are from elsewhere in the EU» (European Union - about) they travel here for a few weeks or even just the weekend (not sure how Brexit will effect this type of labour in the future, it is an item on some project risk registers for projects past 2018)
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« Reply #309 on: July 29, 2016, 22:42:00 »

Adding to Ellendune's comments, but making it more specific to Taplow, they will run possibly from the middle of next year when the line out as far as Maidenhead is electrified.

The last time I spoke to a college in the NR» (Network Rail - home page) Crossrail electrification team they said all the wires will be run between Airport Jcn and Maidenhead by the end of November; I assumed he meant 2016 and not 2017  Grin   

Yes, I was erring on the side of caution there, but it could be early next year once the electrification is finished and gauging runs and staff training have taken place.  I believe all the wiring should be in place by the end of the year at the latest - well ahead of the revised Hendy dates from NR which is good news.
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« Reply #310 on: July 30, 2016, 14:52:52 »

Seem to be a few daylight test runs going on between Paddington and Airport Jn as of now, Saturday afternoon.   

May be of interest if anyone is in the area.

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« Reply #311 on: August 01, 2016, 12:18:30 »

Found a reasonable youtube video of 387130 entering and leaving Paddington in daytime:

http://youtu.be/hYHqvQEi21I

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« Reply #312 on: August 07, 2016, 15:30:25 »

A driver training agreement between the unions and GWR (Great Western Railway) has finally been reached.  So proper driver training on them will be commencing next week ready for the September launch.
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« Reply #313 on: August 10, 2016, 13:09:19 »

Reports elsewhere that 2 more units (387132 and 133) have been delivered this week, moved separately this time on Monday and Tuesday evenings.

In other news, the magazine Today's Railways UK (United Kingdom) has reported that the GWR (Great Western Railway) fleet will take on the consecutive numbers between 387130 and 387174, and deliveries will be complete in late summer 2017.

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« Reply #314 on: August 20, 2016, 20:23:55 »

As suggested earlier in the thread, GWR (Great Western Railway) have confirmed the first 387 in passenger service will be the 07:15 London Paddington to Hayes & Harlington on the 5th September, returning at 07:48.
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