Gw electrification - where can I get a summary of plans?

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[BerkshireBugsy]

Hi all - I'm trying to get a summary of when electrical ion will be completed on certain routes and how far these extend - where can I find this?

For example..

London <> Oxford (and anywhere else past this)
London <> South wales
London <> South west

I appreciate the common factor here us London<> reading

This has cone about because in one of the local facebook groups for newbury someone has posted a picture of electrification work starting and there seems to be confusion about how far west it was going.

I seem to remember this being discussed in another thread and issues bring no discussed about electrical feeds etc

Thanks for your help

[stuving]

From the CP5^▸ (Control Period 5 - the five year period between 2014 and 2019) enhancements Delivery Plan, dates for GRIP^▸ (Guide to Railway Investment Projects) 6 completion (Infrastructure ready to use):

Maidenhead to Newbury, Oxford, Chippenham (incl.) and Bristol Parkway	December 2016
Chippenham (excl) to Bristol Temple Meads	May 2017
Bristol Temple Meads and Bristol Parkway to Cardiff	December 2017
Cardiff (excl.) to Swansea	May 2018

[BerkshireBugsy]

Great - exactly what I needed - many thanks

[stuving]

The document was published in March 2014, by the way. And a note of warning; the dates are "indicative", and under the tables the jargon-speaking weasels have inserted: "It should be noted that an efficient profiling workstream is considering all electrification projects and the outcome of this workstream may result in reprofiling the delivery dates of some electrification projects.". No, I don't know what that means either.

[BerkshireBugsy]

The document was published in March 2014, by the way. And a note of warning; the dates are "indicative", and under the tables the jargon-speaking weasels have inserted: "It should be noted that an efficient profiling workstream is considering all electrification projects and the outcome of this workstream may result in reprofiling the delivery dates of some electrification projects.". No, I don't know what that means either.

Blimey - I thought IT project jargon was bad

[paul7575]

The same dates are shown in the June version of the CP5^▸ (Control Period 5 - the five year period between 2014 and 2019) enhancement milestones, but there should be a quarterly update online soon.

(By the way if anyone is familiar with the way they left all the superseded versions on the website during CP4^▸ (Control Period 4 - the five year period between 2009 and 2014), allowing for easy comparisons, it looks as if they are not doing so this time.   I'm going to try and keep a copy each time they change it, so I can look back and see how delays are gradually amended in, and project scope is surreptitiously reduced over the years.)

Paul

[JayMac]

The document was published in March 2014, by the way. And a note of warning; the dates are "indicative", and under the tables the jargon-speaking weasels have inserted: "It should be noted that an efficient profiling workstream is considering all electrification projects and the outcome of this workstream may result in reprofiling the delivery dates of some electrification projects.". No, I don't know what that means either.

That's a definite candidate for Pseuds Corner in Private Eye. 

[Rhydgaled]

Didn't they do a study into extending the wires beyond Newbury. It came back as not being worth extending the wires to Westbury, but didn't a shorter extension (Bedwyn rings a bell, but I'm not sure) prove worthwhile? Not sure that further extension was actually committed to though.

[BerkshireBugsy]

Didn't they do a study into extending the wires beyond Newbury. It came back as not being worth extending the wires to Westbury, but didn't a shorter extension (Bedwyn rings a bell, but I'm not sure) prove worthwhile? Not sure that further extension was actually committed to though.

That's what I thought - thanks for checking commenting

[Umberleigh]

Was considered, but seems to have been ruled out:

http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/11305367.MP_horrified_as_Bedwyn_and_Pewsey_ruled_out_of_electrification/

I wonder how many cruise missiles we can fire at Iraq with the money saved?

[John R]

I wonder how many cruise missiles we can fire at Iraq with the money saved?

The two are completely unconnected, so probably better not to widen the discussion beyond transport matters.

[ironstone11]

Was considered, but seems to have been ruled out:

http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/11305367.MP_horrified_as_Bedwyn_and_Pewsey_ruled_out_of_electrification/

The lady pictured in the link, Claire Perry, is now the Rail Minister.  To quote Roger Ford from Modern Railways

I^d put her in my Top 10 of  ^Ministers I have known^, for industry knowledge and approachability.

So perhaps common sense will prevail.

[paul7575]

The answer to the Newbury - Bedwyn wires question depends very much on whether you electrify what is necessary to maintain the exact current service pattern, or if you alter the service pattern to fit the future extent of electrification.

As we may have discussed before...

Paul

[BerkshireBugsy]

The answer to the Newbury - Bedwyn wires question depends very much on whether you electrify what is necessary to maintain the exact current service pattern, or if you alter the service pattern to fit the future extent of electrification.

As we may have discussed before...

Paul

Yes Paul I think you are right

[ellendune]

I suppose the question is if there current service pattern had not already been in place is that what you would do?