poor weather conditions???? 26/7/14

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[LiskeardRich]

0718 from redruth towards Paddington cancelled due to poor weather conditions.

I might be completely oblivious, but we've been basking in glorious sunshine in Cornwall.

My 2237 from truro to redruth last night was around 25 late for same reasons.

One very confused person here as we've not seen poor weather for around 10 days!

I've noticed a number of other journeys cancelled for same reason.

[Alan Pettitt]

I heard they had a bit of a shower in the far east yesterday, seems to have affected the 0815 Swansea to Carmarthen, and the Swansea to Pembroke Dock services somehow too!

[johoare]

I imagine it's due to the lightning strike at Twyford yesterday.. Journeycheck says

"Owing to the major disruption during Friday afternoon / evening, following the damage sustained by signalling equipment due to a lightning strike, many of our trains are not in the correct position for us to be able to operate a full service of long distance trains on Saturday morning"

[Electric train]

0718 from redruth towards Paddington cancelled due to poor weather conditions.

I might be completely oblivious, but we've been basking in glorious sunshine in Cornwall.

My 2237 from truro to redruth last night was around 25 late for same reasons.

One very confused person here as we've not seen poor weather for around 10 days!

I've noticed a number of other journeys cancelled for same reason.

Big electrical storm in the Thames Valley yesterday afternoon which resulted in a lightning strike in the Twyford area at approx. 15:15 which took out all the signalling on both the Main and Relief Lines, all services (both TV locals and HSS^▸ (High Speed Services)) were effected all afternoon and evening and I believe still are this morning.

FGW^▸ (First Great Western) are also stating on their website that long distance services are impacted today because the stock is in the wrong place.

[thetrout]

Am on the 07:30 BRI^» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) - PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains). Will let you know of progress through Twyford

Bath Spa CIS^▸ (Customer Information System) boards were showing disruption between Slough and Reading again today After brief discussions with staff there, I understand that yesterday was awful. I couldn't help but agree, yet sympathise

Also another storm predicted in London this Monday...!

[Worcester_Passenger]

And the ultimate train formation update being reported on JourneyCheck:

11:30 Newquay to London Paddington due 16:33
Will be formed of 1 coach instead of 8 to Plymouth.
This is due to poor weather conditions earlier.
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Last Updated :26/07/2014 05:36

Should be cosy!

What would be wrong with "This is due to trains being out of position after last night's massive lightning strike on signalling equipment near Twyford, which wiped out our peak-hour services to and from Paddington"?

[TRAINMAN57]

And the ultimate train formation update being reported on JourneyCheck:

11:30 Newquay to London Paddington due 16:33
Will be formed of 1 coach instead of 8 to Plymouth.
This is due to poor weather conditions earlier.
Show Further Information
Last Updated :26/07/2014 05:36

Should be cosy!

What would be wrong with "This is due to trains being out of position after last night's massive lightning strike on signalling equipment near Twyford, which wiped out our peak-hour services to and from Paddington"?

this service will be formed as an hst from plymouth to paddington.

[TaplowGreen]

And the ultimate train formation update being reported on JourneyCheck:

11:30 Newquay to London Paddington due 16:33
Will be formed of 1 coach instead of 8 to Plymouth.
This is due to poor weather conditions earlier.
Show Further Information
Last Updated :26/07/2014 05:36

Should be cosy!

What would be wrong with "This is due to trains being out of position after last night's massive lightning strike on signalling equipment near Twyford, which wiped out our peak-hour services to and from Paddington"?

this service will be formed as an hst from plymouth to paddington.

That will be "cosy" to the point of dangerous, there is no way all the passengers will be able to get on board............why not lay on some road transport to Plymouth?

[Timmer]

That will be "cosy" to the point of dangerous, there is no way all the passengers will be able to get on board............why not lay on some road transport to Plymouth?

I would like to think they will because as you say not everyone will be able to board a 1 coach train, not by a long way. Will staff at Newquay determine who does actually travel on this train?

[thetrout]

Arrived London 4 minutes late.

With regards to the above. Anyone travelling beyond Par should be bustituted. Allowing those on intermediate stops to board.

Only going to Par or Penzance then travel by rail should be allowed. May need bus from Liskeard too

[grahame]

That will be "cosy" to the point of dangerous, there is no way all the passengers will be able to get on board............why not lay on some road transport to Plymouth?

I would like to think they will because as you say not everyone will be able to board a 1 coach train, not by a long way. Will staff at Newquay determine who does actually travel on this train?

R U sure about the loading?

I'm playing devil's advocate here ... but I do note that it's the first Saturday of many school holidays and so the morning train from Newquay may still be "shoulder" rather than peak season.   And the days of Saturdays being regulated train after regulated train are long since gone.  Much more (thanks to Devon and Cornwall Rail Partnership and others), traffic on lines like Newquay is much more even through the week;  I suspect that there would have been quite a goodly number of seats from Newquay, with the service building up as it runs through Cornwall and Devon, leading to a fullish 125 into Paddington today.

[Timmer]

I note that the 11.00 Penzance to Paddington is calling additionally at Par I assume to assist in picking up Newquay passengers?

[Umberleigh]

This is not helping the public perception of the railways in the South West. After a winter of seemingly continual disruption, now a summer storm brings the entire service to a halt. Meanwhile, traffic flows freely along the roads, as it did all winter, too.

Yes, I understand what happened, but the vast majority of passengers care not a jot for the finer details, they just see yet another disruption.

[Worcester_Passenger]

With regards to the above. Anyone travelling beyond Par should be bustituted. Allowing those on intermediate stops to board.

Only going to Par or Penzance then travel by rail should be allowed. May need bus from Liskeard too

The intermediate stops between Par and Newquay aren't served on Summer Saturdays.

The 11:30 only stops at Par, Plymouth, Exeter St David's and Reading. Which probably says something about the loadings.

[Super Guard]

This is not helping the public perception of the railways in the South West. After a winter of seemingly continual disruption, now a summer storm brings the entire service to a halt. Meanwhile, traffic flows freely along the roads, as it did all winter, too.

Yes, I understand what happened, but the vast majority of passengers care not a jot for the finer details, they just see yet another disruption.

Has the entire service been bought to a halt in the SW?

I live near the A30 close to Exeter, and I can confirm traffic will not be flowing freely on summer saturdays on the roads - there's a reason all the locals use the slightly longer "old roads".  It's just chaos every weekend through the summer, and that's before they even get on the M5.

With regards to the above. Anyone travelling beyond Par should be bustituted. Allowing those on intermediate stops to board.

Only going to Par or Penzance then travel by rail should be allowed. May need bus from Liskeard too

The intermediate stops between Par and Newquay aren't served on Summer Saturdays.

The 11:30 only stops at Par, Plymouth, Exeter St David's and Reading. Which probably says something about the loadings.

Nothing to do with loadings.  The same in reverse leaves PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains) for NQY^▸ (Newquay (Station)) at 0736 on Summer Saturdays.  Penzance leaves 0730, you don't need 2 trains stopping everywhere within a short space of time.  You might as well have some 'fast' services where practicable.  The same applies for this 11:30 to PAD which is only 14mins behind the PZ-PAD at Plymouth.