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« on: January 10, 2008, 08:40:59 »

Apparenty today is the date of the latest ballot...
http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL2123035420071221?feedType=RSS (Regional Spatial Strategy)&feedName=topNews

There was talk of walkouts on 14th and 17th of Jan.  Anybody know if this is still the plan ? 


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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2008, 11:34:32 »

Strike action IS happening, there was an overwhelming majority of votes in favour of it. (from what i just heard on the radio)

Oh, and those are the BAA dates in that article, not the fgw ones
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2008, 11:42:26 »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7180888.stm confirms decision too.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2008, 11:48:38 »

Apparenty today is the date of the latest ballot...
http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL2123035420071221?feedType=RSS (Regional Spatial Strategy)&feedName=topNews

There was talk of walkouts on 14th and 17th of Jan.  Anybody know if this is still the plan ? 





Just tell me who to send my bill to for a lost days revenue...

Sorry, as said before, I have no time for strike action and I do not agree with it - especially not for the reasons mentioned on here before christmas
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 11:52:51 »

Apparenty today is the date of the latest ballot...
http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL2123035420071221?feedType=RSS (Regional Spatial Strategy)&feedName=topNews

There was talk of walkouts on 14th and 17th of Jan.  Anybody know if this is still the plan ? 





Just tell me who to send my bill to for a lost days revenue...

Sorry, as said before, I have no time for strike action and I do not agree with it - especially not for the reasons mentioned on here before christmas

So your own safety is not a concern when under trained manager are operating trains?

And yeah, goodluck getting anything for a "lost days revenue". You've been given notice of it, and will be expected to find alternative arrangements. You won't get a penny from FGW (First Great Western).

I sugest you make your way into birmingham, and take a virgin service into work
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 11:56:04 »

Apparenty today is the date of the latest ballot...
http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL2123035420071221?feedType=RSS (Regional Spatial Strategy)&feedName=topNews

There was talk of walkouts on 14th and 17th of Jan.  Anybody know if this is still the plan ? 





Just tell me who to send my bill to for a lost days revenue...

Sorry, as said before, I have no time for strike action and I do not agree with it - especially not for the reasons mentioned on here before christmas

So your own safety is not a concern when under trained manager are operating trains?

And yeah, goodluck getting anything for a "lost days revenue". You've been given notice of it, and will be expected to find alternative arrangements. You won't get a penny from FGW (First Great Western).

I sugest you make your way into birmingham, and take a virgin service into work

Which will cost me a fortune so I may as well just stay home

I know I wont get a penny - I was being sarcastic

As I always say - if you dont like the job and the conditions - go find a different one
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2008, 12:00:03 »

It's FGW (First Great Western) that are breaching their "conditions", not drivers and guards, it's over YOUR safety that these strikes are being carried out, where competence assesors who aren't actually passed out as guards OR drivers are working trains, if your train derailed you would expect a competent person to take charge of your safety.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2008, 16:23:40 »

More articles on this (links below.)
http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news_article.php?section=5&category=89&story=5275

http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news_article.php?section=5&category=89&story=5287

Quote from FGW (First Great Western) :

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"As a commercial, seven-day-a-week operation, we need be able to provide a dependable service for customers.
"To achieve this we have as a last resort used fully qualified safety trained managers working as guards to crew trains.
"The decision to keep services going because staff are unavailable is only taken when all other possibilities have been exhausted. We will not compromise safety."

The RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) and FGW are set to meet again tomorrow at noon.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2008, 17:03:02 »

It has recently been confirmed by the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) that they will call strikes by FGW (First Great Western) guards on the 20th January.
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2008, 17:20:52 »

FGW (First Great Western)'s reaction to the announcement of the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers)'s ballot:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/NewsItem.aspx?id=577
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 17:36:34 »

It's FGW (First Great Western) that are breaching their "conditions", not drivers and guards, it's over YOUR safety that these strikes are being carried out, where competence assesors who aren't actually passed out as guards OR drivers are working trains, if your train derailed you would expect a competent person to take charge of your safety.

Whilst I sure hope that agreement is reached and Strike action called off, it should be remembered that NOBODY on the Railway WINS when strikes occur, the Road Lobby WINS.

I'm not a big surporter of Unions, but whilst BR (British Rail(ways)) was a fair employer, there were a few strikes but the whole Railway industry worked for a common goal.
In my Job if I ****ed up, and Trains got Cancelled it was my boss would come and see me, He'd get to the root Cause, he would then have to see the top Knobs and square things up, he would then come back to me the next day with, "It's all been sorted, DON'T EVER DO THAT AGAIN, for that you owe me a PINT", and that was fair really.

Today it's a BLAME CULTURE and ANYBODY on the railway screwing things up and they are out the door, even if they had great skills in the job, for this Blame Culture it's now essential for ALL railway workers to be in a Union.

Whilst FGW Quote "they only used a manager to work a train" this is Manament by "BULLING" and I BET the manager so used was not at all happy about being ordered to work the train.
First group show their true colours in America where due to the lack of union laws, (that Britain enjoys), the use of Non union labour in the States is almost a condition of First group service.

The TOC (Train Operating Company)'s will always argue that Safety First, yet given just 1/2 a chance, every train would work DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) (Driver Only Operation), in my working enviroment it's now more often Profit first Safety second, that is the reason a Manager worked a train.
It truely JUSTIFIED for the unions to call a strike.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 17:42:23 »

At least one manager from the Westcountry actually refused to work a train when asked, despite being told by his boss "do it or face the consequences", good on him because he still refused to work the train as a matter of morals!!
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 17:45:24 »

Here is the view from the I Hate First Great Western blog (link below.)
http://ihatefirstgreatwestern.blogspot.com/2008/01/can-we-strike-too-please.html
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2008, 17:50:18 »

Very well said I thought!
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2008, 18:53:47 »

ihategreatwestern have got it RIGHT!

Totally agree with you Vacman!
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