First to Lose Franchise ( Rumour )

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[vacman]

It's a set 10 years i believe, i don't think theres any performance extensions planned as part of it

Its 7 years with a 3 year extension dependant on performance-so yes, 7 years!

[Timmer]

It's a set 10 years i believe, i don't think theres any performance extensions planned as part of it

I think its 7 and a half years with a 2 and a half years extension.

[vacman]

It's a set 10 years i believe, i don't think theres any performance extensions planned as part of it

I think its 7 and a half years with a 2 and a half years extension.

Nope, def 7 with 3 year extension.

[Btline]

The way they are going, no more than 7 years!

About the livery:

I just thought Wessex liveries were more imaginative.

I did hate the Wessex insides!!!!! FGW^▸ (First Great Western) are better at that.

[Timmer]

Nope, def 7 with 3 year extension.

Yep, spot on Vacman, it is as you say 7 and 3. I must be thinking of another recently awarded franchise.

[dog box]

Sorry shazz ......BUT Voyagers are probably the worst train ever made,

[Btline]

Sorry shazz ......BUT Voyagers are probably the worst train ever made,

Defo- they are terrible!

[vacman]

Well, dare I put 3 numbers into a combination to make 142??? think i'd prefer a voyager to one of them!

[Timmer]

Sorry shazz ......BUT Voyagers are probably the worst train ever made,

And for that one reason I always wondered why so many thought that Virgin XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) were the be all and end all of rail franchises. They got rid of the entire HST^▸ (High Speed Train) fleet and replaced them with tin cans.

[Shazz]

It's a set 10 years i believe, i don't think theres any performance extensions planned as part of it

I think its 7 and a half years with a 2 and a half years extension.

Someone sucks at wikipedia sources then

Time to edit away! (anyone got a link confirming this?)

I still stand by my decision of calling voyagers some of the best stock the country has, as from lots of use of them, i still think they're incredibly good compared to hst's

[smokey]

Sorry shazz ......BUT Voyagers are probably the worst train ever made,

And for that one reason I always wondered why so many thought that Virgin XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) were the be all and end all of rail franchises. They got rid of the entire HST^▸ (High Speed Train) fleet and replaced them with tin cans.

I see the tin cans  almost everyday, time to start a new sport  "vomet comet spotting"
Last week I saw a 5 car Vomet Comet with all 5 engines working, first I'd seen in months, normal to see 5 car sets with at least 1 engine NOT working (or on Tick over only).

Half of 4 car sets are also without 1 engine, have seen a 5 car set running into Exeter on just 2 engines, think it was then Cancelled and didn't work to Plymouth.

[Shazz]

Everyones allowed there own opinion, you think they suck, i think they rock.

Just because you don't think they do, and seem to think i should agree with you, doesn't mean i'm going to.

Deal with it.

[Timmer]

I still stand by my decision of calling voyagers some of the best stock the country has, as from lots of use of them, i still think they're incredibly good compared to hst's

And so you should Shazz. I've seen on other forums that many do prefer Voyagers over an HST^▸ (High Speed Train). I just feel that it was an opportunity missed to provide a really decent piece of rolling stock for XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) IMHO^▸ (in my humble opinion). I admit I'm very biased towards HSTs and they are the best train every to be built in this country, still going over 30 years later. I do like the accelaration on a Voyager though...they don't hang around.

[Shazz]

if only virgin added another 3/4 coaches (voyager/superv) to each of them. they'd be practically perfect for most of the stock round the UK^▸ (United Kingdom) IMO^▸ (in my opinion) (but granted they probably couldnt afford a lot more stock than they paid for, after all ^1bn is no "small" stock order)

And i'm fairly sure they'd still be in command of the XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) franchise as it is now if they did.

[smokey]

I still stand by my decision of calling voyagers some of the best stock the country has, as from lots of use of them, i still think they're incredibly good compared to hst's

And so you should Shazz. I've seen on other forums that many do prefer Voyagers over an HST^▸ (High Speed Train). I just feel that it was an opportunity missed to provide a really decent piece of rolling stock for XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) IMHO^▸ (in my humble opinion). I admit I'm very biased towards HSTs and they are the best train every to be built in this country, still going over 30 years later. I do like the accelaration on a Voyager though...they don't hang around.

They don't hang around?, now that depends on how many engines are running.