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« on: May 05, 2014, 18:44:32 »

Help please!  I know that an overnight break of journey is allowed on off peak returns but I believe there are some exceptions. I want to overnight break at Guildford on a Worcester to Gatwick Airport off peak return. Is this ok?
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2014, 19:20:46 »

Are we talking about a Break of Journey (BoJ (Break of Journey)) on the OUT or RTN portion of the Off Peak Return? There are four flavours of Off Peak Return from Worcester to Gatwick Airport with different routeings. All allow BoJ on both portions but there are differences in what you can do on each portion.

On the OUT, Off-Peak Singles and the outward portion of Off-Peak Returns are valid for travel on the date shown on the ticket and until 04:29 the following morning. If the journey cannot be completed in this time, the ticket may used to continue the journey on the following day. All travel must be completed by 04:29 in the morning after this second day. Time restrictions need to be adhered to on the second day.

This implies that you can only break your journey if it is impossible to complete it on day one.

On the RTN, Return portions of Off-Peak Return tickets are valid for travel until 0429 on the day following the last day of validity (i.e. one calendar month from outward journey). All travel must be completed by this time.

This implies you can break your journey as you wish within the validity of the ticket.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 20:02:07 »

Thanks BNM. It was on "outward" break I was checking and (as you say)it does not seem to be allowed (as a journey choice)
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2014, 21:16:35 »

Seems someone on FGW (First Great Western) still hasnt got the message!

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BREAK OF JOURNEY ON RETURN HALF OF OPEN TICKETS
A reminder to all gatelines that customers holding open return tickets may break their journey on the return portion, including overnight. Subject to time restrictions, the customer may then continue their journey right up to the expiry date shown on the ticket.
 
Provided the ticket is in date and that you are satisfied that the ticket is not being used fraudulently, then they should be allowed to travel.
 
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2014, 21:44:16 »

That message seems correct to me apart from the reference to 'Open' tickets.

Or is it the omission of what can be done on the OUT portion that you are referring to, SDS?
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2014, 21:51:41 »

That message seems correct to me apart from the reference to 'Open' tickets.

Or is it the omission of what can be done on the OUT portion that you are referring to, SDS?

No idea, its cut and pasted directly from a memo which has been passed to unto me, yesterday funnily enough.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2014, 13:51:23 »

Can I add my question to the topic of a breaking journey on the return portion of a ticket?  Is it permissible to break for more than one night ie have a "little holiday"?

The journey in question will be Taunton to Ashford International travelling out on Saturday or Sunday, when the Super Off Peak Return fare is ^54.45 with a Railcard.  Routing is via St Pancras International on Southeastern, and FGW (First Great Western)/London Underground.

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2014, 14:21:52 »

Yes, that is fine, provided you complete all travel by 0429 the day after the last day printed on the return portion of your ticket. It would for example be permitted to join the sleeper service from London Paddington or Reading to Taunton on the night of the last date printed on your ticket.
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