Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 15:35 09 Jan 2025
 
* Fresh weather warnings for ice across UK
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 today - Bath Railway Society
24/01/25 - Westbury Station reopens
24/01/25 - LTP4 Wilts / Consultation end
24/01/25 - Bristol Rail Campaign AGM 2025

On this day
9th Jan (2004)
Incorporation of Railway Development Society Ltd (now Railfuture) (link)

Train RunningShort Run
14:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa
16:59 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington
Delayed
14:50 Trowbridge to Bristol Temple Meads
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
January 09, 2025, 15:36:54 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[167] 'Railway 200' events and commemorations 2025
[114] Thumpers for Dummies
[96] Railcard Prices going up
[57] Outstanding server / web site issues
[33] Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents ...
[21] Views sought : how train companies give assistance to disabled...
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Class 43 stock at Laira Depot  (Read 8452 times)
lj2
Newbie
*
Posts: 9


View Profile
« on: March 18, 2014, 22:09:57 »

Hi All,

Reading this article: http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Prime-Minister-David-Cameron-visit-South-West/story-20595996-detail/story.html
One of the photos implies that at least one Class 43 loco was moved by road to London after the tracks got wiped out at Dawlish. (Presumably by London they mean Old Oak Common.)
Was all the stranded Class 43 stock moved out by road and if so, were mark 3 coaches moved with them or was it just locos?

Also does anyone know if many other DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) were stranded south of Dawlish post-storm?

Thanks!
Logged
paul7575
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 5335


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 10:01:44 »

In the case of the HSTs (High Speed Train) it was those east of Dawlish that were the ones stranded.  Laira is the only HST depot that does the major exams, so a number of HSTs had to be got to/from Laira.

There were sufficient DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) west of Dawlish to run the branch services, and these are being maintained at Laira by fitters from Exeter or Bristol who travel down, so in effect nothing is actually much of a a problem.

Don't know what the XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) solution has been for their isolated units.

Paul
Logged
Pb_devon
Transport Scholar
Sr. Member
******
Posts: 292


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2014, 12:16:26 »

the Yahoo Groups SWRG site has reported many 43s plus the occasional Mk3 coach on the M5/A38 since the Dawlish breach.
Logged
rogerw
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1379



View Profile
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 13:09:47 »

According to the latest edition of Rail (out today) there will have been 100 or so movements by road during the closure.
Logged

I like to travel.  It lets me feel I'm getting somewhere.
Southern Stag
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 984


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 13:34:43 »


Don't know what the XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) solution has been for their isolated units.

Paul
As far as I know Bombardier staff have also been sent to Laira to carry out maintenance on the Voyagers. XC initially weren't making much use of their trapped units but there are now 2 Voyagers in use every day.
Logged
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3490

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 19:37:35 »


Don't know what the XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) solution has been for their isolated units.

Paul
As far as I know Bombardier staff have also been sent to Laira to carry out maintenance on the Voyagers. XC initially weren't making much use of their trapped units but there are now 2 Voyagers in use every day.

Its odd seeing voyagers in daylight going Penzance direction as they normally run down later than 8pm time they reach this far west.
Logged

All posts are my own personal believes, opinions and understandings!
SandTEngineer
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3485


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2014, 16:51:55 »

There is the (normally in daylight most of the year) 0543 (Mondays) and 0628 (Tuesdays to Fridays) XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) Plymouth to Penzance service.  And when the service is back to normal after the Dawlish washout, an early afternoon Sunday service.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 16:59:27 by SandTEngineer » Logged
lj2
Newbie
*
Posts: 9


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2014, 18:23:58 »

The XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) Voyager stock didn't occur to me before. Is Laira equipped to service the voyagers in that case?
Thanks.
Logged
paul7575
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 5335


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2014, 18:32:04 »

The XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) Voyager stock didn't occur to me before. Is Laira equipped to service the voyagers in that case?


In normal circumstances Laira is one of the locations for XC overnight stabling (and hence overnight servicing of Voyagers).   Realtimetrains shows three XC units visit overnight in the usual timetable, (via the carriage washer!), and this link should show the times for mid May:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/XLZ/2014/05/19/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=XC

Paul
Logged
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3490

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2014, 19:02:18 »

Two Voyagers have been stabling at Long Rock all day on Saturdays the last couple of weekends.


Arriva Cross Country by Rich.W., on Flickr
Logged

All posts are my own personal believes, opinions and understandings!
Chris from Nailsea
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 19089


Justice for Cerys Piper and Theo Griffiths please!


View Profile Email
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2014, 01:40:03 »

From the Tiverton Mid Devon Gazette:

Quote
Repaired rail link takes trains off road

One of the more remarkable side-effects of the severed rail link at Dawlish has been the sight of modern locomotives travelling up and down the M5 and A38 on the back of giant flat-bed trucks.

But now that the line is back open, engines can now make their own way or be pulled by rail to the Traction Maintenance Depot, in Plymouth.

Officials at First Great Western are breathing a sigh of relief at the end of the complex and costly operation which has seen some 139 engines and carriages hauled long distances in the eight weeks the mainline has been closed.

The Laira yard is responsible for the overhaul and daily servicing of First's fleet of High Speed Trains and also the diesel units used on local services.

A spokesman for First said the haulage costs had run into hundreds of thousands of pounds. "Quite apart from the challenge of getting our customers around the demolished sea wall we have had trains trapped either side of Dawlish," he added. "It is great news that we have now got the ability to move services around the network."
Logged

William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page